From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Input method or help feature needed Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:26:09 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4D5D8461.2000603@cs.ucla.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297974384 28579 80.91.229.12 (17 Feb 2011 20:26:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 17 21:26:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqAQc-0007Gc-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:26:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46129 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PqAQc-00071l-0E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:26:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57062 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PqAQX-00070S-9Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:26:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PqAQV-0008Dy-GV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:26:13 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:44160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PqAQV-0008De-6m; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:26:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE8E39E80E0; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:26:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rqX4o0BHM-6k; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:26:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [131.179.64.200] (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 982DD39E8083; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:26:09 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.7 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136149 Archived-At: On 02/17/2011 11:14 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Can anyone develop a way to make it easier? For ideas about this, I suggest looking at Wikipedia's interface for adding unusual characters. I find it much easier to use Wikipedia to add a character that I don't know, than to use Emacs. It's easier than using ucs-insert (which requires that I know the Unicode name, which I typically don't) or the Turkish input method (which I don't know how to use and lack time to learn). For example, to add a dotless i to the start of the Wikipedia talk page on Emacs, you visit its "Edit" page and do the following: Press the "Insert" button. Select Latin; it displays lots of Latin characters. Press the dotless i character. That's much easier than anything Emacs offers now. Perhaps someone who's an expert on Emacs UI code could do something similar (or even better) for Emacs.