From: Emmanuel Bigler <Emmanuel.Bigler@ens2m.fr>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
lennart.borgman@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
7962@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 with diacritic signs in emacs 23.2.1
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:00:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D4BB21D.6050504@ens2m.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83oc6sbyum.fsf@gnu.org>
Le 03/02/2011 22:19, Eli Zaretskii a écrit :
>> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:49:22 +0100
>> From: Emmanuel Bigler<Emmanuel.Bigler@ens2m.fr>
>> Cc:
>>
>> However I am reluctant to switch to UTF-8 for all my texts in English,
>> German, French, even Icelandic etc... i.e. Western European languages,
>> the only ones I'll ever typeset, which are perfectly handled in
>> unibyte iso-8859-1.
>
> You seem to assume that going multibyte requires that your files be
> encoded in UTF-8. That simply isn't true. The files can continue be
> encoded in ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15; Emacs will decode them into its
> internal representation when you visit the file and encode it back
> when you save it. You lose nothing.
>
OK Eli. I'm trying to understand and this is a bit tricky.
Now I'm entering into **very** strange things ; I hope somebody can
explain what's going on. This is emacs 23.2.93.1
1/ in an emacs buffer I load a test-file created years ago with a
program, a list of unibyte characters that I display as iso-8859-1. All
characters are displayed properly.
2/ I (toggle-enable-multibyte-characters nil) : unibyte characters
already present in the files do not change and are displayed correctly.
I type a fresh sequence of letters with diacritic signs at the end of
the buffer : OK. I toggle back to unibyte : freshly entered letters
appear as 2-byte sequences. OK
3/ now I cut-paste a line of the old unibyte file and enter a fresh
letter with diacritic sign in thye middel of this line ; I'm still in
2-byte codeing/display : the letter entered in the middle of unibytes
seems to stay unibyte !!
Is this a bug, a feature, or misconceptions / misunderstandings on my
side ??
------------
From Sven :
> IMO offering to convert them to UTF-8 would be more helpful. The
> legacy encodings ought to die some day.
Exactly like legacy software should die some day ; (ahem) : who said :
"exacty like emacs, an old and obsolete software, that I've been using
for 25 years..." ;-);-)
--
Emmanuel
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-02 10:35 bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 with diacritic signs in emacs 23.2.1 Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-02 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-02 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-03 13:34 ` Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-03 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-03 18:01 ` Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-03 18:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-03 18:49 ` Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-03 21:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-03 21:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-03 22:17 ` Sven Joachim
2011-02-03 22:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-03 22:35 ` Sven Joachim
2011-02-04 10:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-04 12:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 12:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-04 13:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 13:06 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-04 13:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 13:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 13:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-04 13:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 13:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-04 14:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-04 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-04 15:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 15:20 ` Jason Rumney
2011-02-04 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-04 16:36 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-04 17:08 ` Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-04 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-04 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-05 9:27 ` bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 [SOLVED, MANY THANKS TO ALL] Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-05 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-04 8:00 ` Emmanuel Bigler [this message]
2011-02-04 8:09 ` bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 with diacritic signs in emacs 23.2.1 Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-04 8:22 ` bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize / ISO 8859 / UNIBYTE / utf-8 backward compatibility Emmanuel Bigler
2011-02-04 8:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-03 18:49 ` bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 with diacritic signs in emacs 23.2.1 Stefan Monnier
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