From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "K. Richard Pixley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: bug#7771: 23.1; can't turn off font-lock-mode globally Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:27:54 -0800 Message-ID: <4D224D6A.3030505@noir.com> References: <4D20CF4D.9010403@noir.com> <4D21180B.3050505@noir.com> <4D221813.9000600@noir.com> <83d3odojc8.fsf@gnu.org> <4D223199.2070307@noir.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294094441 15641 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2011 22:40:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:40:41 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 23:40:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZt4v-0006P1-0X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:40:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52431 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZt4u-0003HD-7A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:40:36 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe22.iad.POSTED!00000000!not-for-mail User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@rawbandwidth.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:27:55 UTC Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.bug:70379 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:43071 Archived-At: On 20110103 12:39, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> It appears as though people may be erroneously conflating font-lock >> modes with syntactic meaning of the underlying text and keying off >> font-lock values rather than the syntactic meanings. This leads to the >> erroneous programmer impression that font-lock is a necessary >> prerequisite for their code, so they force it on. > > You are entitled to your opinions, but to me syntax-sensitive colors > are an important feature because they show me my mistakes before they > hit the compiler. I'm not arguing about whether syntax sensitive colors are an important feature. I agree that it makes sense for emacs to make this feature available. I have similar functionality from autoindent, blink paren closing, etc so I do understand that when these work, they provide earlier notice of problems. My argument is that syntax sensitivity should be available independently of color presentation. That is, I should have blink matching parens, autoindent, etc, even if I have colors turned off. --rich