From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: gnus, thunderbird and imap Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:59:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4D189BB1.1030904@mousecar.com> References: <87zkrsl93s.fsf@news.individual.de> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293458503 18054 80.91.229.12 (27 Dec 2010 14:01:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: GNU Emacs List Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 27 15:01:40 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXDdr-0004hh-Op for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:01:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXDdq-0000KZ-UP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:01:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42480 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXDbd-0008Te-UY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:59:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXDbc-0001jR-BI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:59:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:58278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXDbc-0001j7-7E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:59:20 -0500 Original-Received: from dellap.mousecar.net (dsl093-011-016.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.11.16]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LbuTk-1QGDSQ1JI4-00jUc5; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:59:15 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20101213) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=5AD091E7 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:GXb7Oj5vhkioxnriY0qWH0hM3SODGC/AuqWh667JDer bamUptZtIdqGjI1RIfCBJ8zmIx9gqa3OhUps3+T6Tiv3HuKjse tgT8dDHjUlPYT3cVj25bj/Q59+UX7iNmrDRAJnu01Pz4zQ/k7n NNvVOdMD1ZHl9t9hx1ETuhoD3wk3rot6M6nB91QRdDeBM9hFsZ plvPlpFU6KCDxeoxCLl2u9dzkvq2wnHCbifUNHehjw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77910 Archived-At: On 12/27/2010 03:12 AM Richard Riley wrote: > Rud1ger Sch1erz writes: > >> Tyler Smith writes: >> >>> Indicate that I need to set up a local IMAP server to get gnus working. >> Why that? I use gnus just with my IMAP account at gmx, concurrently with >> thunderbird, which I sometimes use from a different machine where no >> gnus is installed. >> >> Cheers, >> Rudiger >> > > Its a lot faster and you get nnir indexed searching as well as a > local copy of all your mail and the overhead is very low. For years I've been using IMAPS without a local server and the speed is fine... anything "faster" than my remote connection-- such as a local server-- wouldn't be noticeable. Moreover, using the remote server (my ISP's) allows me to access my email from anywhere in the world where I can get an internet connection. Yes, I could do that with a local IMAPS server... and of course secured and firewalled it... and put those machines on a UPS and performed regular backups. But why go through all that when the ISP (or other organization) does it for free? The OP just wants to use emacs to get mail from a remote IMAP(S) server. Why turn it into a project? It should take ten minutes, tops, to set that up... that's all it takes if you use thunderbird for your email client. Hopefully, setting up multiple IMAP(S) accounts in emacs will be that good some day. Apparently it isn't there yet. I really wish it was... believe me, I'd love to use emacs for my email. Maybe in a few years a really good, savvy, customer-oriented, and thorough emacs developer or two will get involved and we'll finally get it.