From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: egarrulo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: No automatic tabs in Emacs? Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 02:24:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4CF846C3.6020504@gmail.com> References: <4CF6BAEC.2070400@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291339454 5258 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2010 01:24:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 01:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Sueroski To: suvayu ali Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 03 02:24:07 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POKNb-0001E6-3g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 02:24:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54243 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1POKNa-00086F-Ik for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:24:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40011 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1POKNE-000863-CJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:23:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POKND-000102-87 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:39553) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POKND-0000zd-2r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:23:43 -0500 Original-Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so771219wwb.30 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:23:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=leugZ4EYF7XvHZD2BAN3Cd6V4DIYVs6CpAdq8pJAJUo=; b=fimzkw9WF3aQ5cYYpcnXV+QJLt0x1s1xUl9X2zGFiClKBpyU88RnqVzh1KJHUTZfeP m80qcYJleyTmIaqfXJwrsgRd5yTjWv8vS1hMEmzDs/DN6Qn58mlZX4zKClRC7ZU3Nv8y GofwA+PuU7zIDI1ABQz8l8KGS1hZhewapuSFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xsBpYqSLoNRfNIgg0afWWhBSep/8dOyJLtknsL9/MnJ6j+q9g3Y1FR+2AvhE3Y1HHu MSnEir4m8HicLYpWja5hFDKqTbqfptsZkgabqnYWSXXjCnBoIvPtS7/d8b9LWfTuYlNw OlC2jtNcOJcdqbPqx4Hv0oFAv+/FKGzcjsG48= Original-Received: by 10.216.231.146 with SMTP id l18mr982581weq.52.1291339420989; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:23:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.100] (dynamic-adsl-94-36-109-54.clienti.tiscali.it [94.36.109.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a2sm601777wer.41.2010.12.02.17.23.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:23:40 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100328) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75487 Archived-At: suvayu ali wrote: > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:15 PM, egarrulo wrote: > >> Forget about using Emacs for programming. Emacs is not an IDE. >> > > That is a strange comment. Does one always need an IDE for > programming? Although at times it is very useful, I often find it > intrusive. You'd better always use a an IDE for programming, albeit for easier programs you . Do not discard IDEs because you have experienced using bloated ones A nicely designed IDE will not get in your way. It will scale nicely from one-source-file programs to multi-project applications. Indeed, if I'm not mistaken, Emacs out-of-the-box supports compiling and running one-source-file programs. What it lacks is going beyond that (out-of-the-box). > Also have you checked out the CEDET library for Emacs? I > use it when I am working within a framework. > CEDET has been a recent addition to Emacs. I tried it in the past, but I found it difficult to configure and understand. Maybe things have changed in the meantime, or I wasn't an experienced-enough Emacser at the time. I'll give it a try again, since you have recommended it. I've just stumbled upon this project: http://home.gna.org/emacs-ide/ Maybe it is what I was saying Emacs lacks.