From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7408: Linux patchutils: Development of the project? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:18:35 +0100 Message-ID: <4CE3E43B.80802@gmx.at> References: <1213200935.4147.62.camel@cyberelk.elk> <87pqu59d16.fsf@picasso.cante.net> <87mxp8kth3.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290005068 27637 80.91.229.12 (17 Nov 2010 14:44:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jari Aalto , 7408@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 17 15:44:23 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIjFH-0000dn-E1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:44:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38681 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIjFG-0007Pc-Tf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:44:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48623 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIjFB-0007PJ-Hx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:44:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIjFA-0005Nk-9A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:44:17 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40178) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIjFA-0005Nd-7L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:44:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIilu-0008OB-0O; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:14:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7408.129000322132241 (code B ref 7408); Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2010 14:13:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIilV-0008Ny-JE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:13:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIilU-0008Nt-3o for 7408@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:13:36 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Nov 2010 14:18:37 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-60-99.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.60.99]) [62.47.60.99] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2010 15:18:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+K7QQMAFOKUURQ3vYbhkcRB2QEDmvAladOnXUBfb brTGnAXquEAXlj User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <87mxp8kth3.fsf@gmail.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:14:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:41698 Archived-At: > ..., I've always > wondered what the hell was the person adding another function of the > same name thinking. To have a library that clobbers existing definitions > is a no no even outside Emacs, let alone in the core. > > Is the explanation (I'm not familiar with the history) that at the time > cl.el was added there was no dolist in core Emacs, so there was no > perceived need to call it dolist* as in other similar cases (mapcar*, > defun* etc)? (In that case my sincere disdain would go for the person > who introduced dolist into subr.el later without addressing the naming > clash.) > > Same with `dotimes'. Strongly seconded. For my opinion on this see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg01582.html martin