From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alain Knaff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7269: bug #7269: 24.0.50; opening a file via emacsclient -c moves the mouse cursor to, the top left of the frames buffer. Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 22:40:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4CDF05BF.7040805@knaff.lu> References: <87y69q55un.fsf@yahoo.de> <4CDEF181.6010503@knaff.lu> <4CDEFD4E.1090603@knaff.lu> <4CDF0235.8030301@knaff.lu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289684653 4617 80.91.229.12 (13 Nov 2010 21:44:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:44:13 +0000 (UTC) To: Lennart Borgman , 7269@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 13 22:44:09 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHNtI-0003Ng-Nm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 22:44:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58809 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PHNtG-0007gl-SP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:44:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39177 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PHNtD-0007gV-Cz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:44:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PHNtC-0003VT-BZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:44:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52027) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PHNtC-0003VM-7R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHNlS-00061u-Ax; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:36:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alain Knaff Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7269 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7269-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7269.128968412823165 (code B ref 7269); Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7269) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2010 21:35:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHNku-00061a-CI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:35:28 -0500 Original-Received: from crmm.lgl.lu ([158.64.72.228] helo=lll.lu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHNkr-00061P-Nr for 7269@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:35:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [188.115.12.243] (ip-188-115-12-243.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu [188.115.12.243] (may be forged)) by lll.lu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id oADLeFXK026757 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Nov 2010 22:40:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.10 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:36:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:41572 Archived-At: On 11/13/2010 10:31 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: [...] > As I said I know of no exception on w32. All applications I can think > of right now grabs focus when you call them from the command line (or > from Windows Explorer). Ok, but if I really liked this braindead behavior, I'd actually use Windows, rather than Linux. And I'd probably use Notepad too rather than Emacs :-) So why exactly is Emacs trying to force Windows down everybody's throat? Emacs, of all software! The flagship of the GNU movement! The mind boggles... Maybe, in emacs this behavior could be made conditional on running on Windows? > > Maybe this is dependent on the window manager used? I use KDE. I don't believe this is a window manager issue... if that was the case, wouldn't all applications behave the same way? > > What happens if you launch a program from the command line without a > file name argument? Does the application get focus? No, of course not. Unless it just happens to pop up in front of the mouse. And this has been the case with other Window managers as well, even before KDE. Even in mwm, twm, fvwm, applications didn't steal focus willy-nilly. I don't know for sure about Gnome, I don't use Gnome very often, but I guess I would have noticed if this was the case... > (On w32 they do > get focus.) ... and that's one of the zillion reasons why I don't use w32... :-) Alain