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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7260: 24.0.50; DEL screwed up
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:06:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CC1C493.70200@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wrpaxnmi.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net>

Am 22.10.2010 17:17, schrieb Jason Rumney:
> Helmut Eller<eller.helmut@gmail.com>  writes:
>
>> * Richard Stallman [2010-10-22 12:22] writes:
>>
>>>      >  I think most people now agree that `C-x C-x' shouldn't activate the
>>>      >  region when transient-mark-mode is switched on, but nobody
>>>      >  has actually altered that function to stop doing this.
>>>
>>> C-x C-x is the main way to activate an existing region in Transient
>>> Mark mode.  To make that require C-u will be a different pain in the
>>> neck.
>>>
>>> The change for C-d and DEL to delete all regions was too radically
>>> incompatible to make made without polling the users first.  The right
>>> thing to do is take that change out, then address the issue the right
>>> way: by polling the users.
>>
>> I haven't been asked, but I too think C-x C-x should not activate the
>> region.  That always annoyed me.
>
> I have always used C-x C-x for navigation purposes.  Now that
> transient-mark-mode is on by default,

which I think is the real issue at stake here. Fiddling 
exchange-point-and-mark afterwards, means dressing it from behind.

A different exchange-point-and-mark behaviour will break behavior at 
other places.

Please restore default of transient-mark-mode (ie. off)

The other major annoyance is the kind of former delsel-mode now default.
Just teribble, unusable for me and may others, as I read.

Andreas

  I find it an annoyance that the
> region is activated as a side-effect of swapping mark and point.
>
> Reactivating the region is not something I've ever found the need to do,
> but if I did, I would consider the swapping mark and point to be an
> annoying side effect, and would prefer a command that does not have that
> side effect.
>
>




  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-22 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.4.1287666765.3734.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-10-21 17:21 ` bug#7260: 24.0.50; DEL screwed up Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-21 18:19   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-21 18:26     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-21 18:45   ` Drew Adams
2010-10-21 18:45   ` Drew Adams
2010-10-22 12:22     ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-22 12:22     ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-22 13:52       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-22 15:04         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-22 15:49           ` Miles Bader
2010-10-22 16:45             ` David Kastrup
2010-10-22 15:49           ` Miles Bader
2010-10-22 15:04         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-22 15:47         ` Miles Bader
2010-10-22 15:47         ` Miles Bader
2010-10-22 16:10           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-21 12:53             ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-22 16:44               ` David Kastrup
2012-02-19  6:09               ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-22 16:42             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-22 16:45               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-22 18:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-22 18:32                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-22 18:55                     ` Andreas Röhler
2010-10-22 19:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-23  4:36                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-10-23  7:05                       ` David Kastrup
2010-10-23 12:53                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-10-22 18:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-22 16:45               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-22 16:42             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-23  7:46         ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-23  7:46         ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-23  7:46         ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-23  9:38           ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-23  9:38           ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-23 17:26             ` James Cloos
2010-10-23 17:54               ` James Cloos
2010-10-24  7:04                 ` David Kastrup
2010-10-23 17:54               ` James Cloos
2010-10-23 17:26             ` James Cloos
2010-10-24 16:30           ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-24 16:30           ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-25 12:08             ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-25 12:08             ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-23  7:46         ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-23 11:18         ` Bastien
2010-10-23 14:21           ` David Kastrup
2010-10-23 16:09             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-23 16:09             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-23 11:18         ` Bastien
2010-10-22 13:52       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-22 14:31       ` Helmut Eller
2010-10-22 15:17         ` Jason Rumney
2010-10-22 17:06           ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2010-10-23  4:25             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-10-21 19:39   ` Chong Yidong
     [not found]   ` <mailman.8.1287690197.32629.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-10-21 20:01     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-21 20:16       ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-21 20:30         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-21 20:30         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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