From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:30:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4CC078A6.7060309@online.de> References: <87tykgxqbb.fsf@fastmail.fm> <878w1s7zw8.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871v7k7ydt.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <4CC00391.6050608@easy-emacs.de> <87wrpb7unc.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <15036.1287673547@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287682287 12238 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2010 17:31:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tassilo Horn , Nick Dokos , Carsten Dominik To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 21 19:31:25 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8yz4-0006Qk-Lc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:31:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42702 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8yz4-0006oF-0x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:31:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50129 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8yyv-0006n2-OX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:31:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8yyt-0003IN-PI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:31:13 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]:64288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8yyt-0003IF-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:31:11 -0400 Original-Received: from noname.home (brln-4dbc643a.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.100.58]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MfjHQ-1OwnkN2O4C-00NUZQ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:31:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <15036.1287673547@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:2v3G6AypELJ6UCq+2rgBhPEXOlUqux3StCuA4d94Uoq Jn78Z3yb+vuEx7OYp9nhffJVeUiYv4iK9DXy9PhOg7mxXFgcL3 33nEeltKm207BAeGvuTBzA1YZwYpjwx9G/iJAgnUb8ioglUP0w 2xHYk4G/4s05VRp1sg7985intPu7Y+71o8eFgjZCNi07yWS7fL LZnUBov6mw3pNj81Cou1bPKGbZXoaTmrhigl2W1qQA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131940 Archived-At: Am 21.10.2010 17:05, schrieb Nick Dokos: > Tassilo Horn wrote: > > >>> BTW suggest to replace the common footnote by the org's footnotes, remove the >>> prefix then, leave some aliases in org-mode for backward-compatibility. >> >> Well, I don't have a strong opinion on that. But currently >> org-footnote.el is not very good when writing mails, because it places >> footnotes at the end of a buffer. If there's a signature, then >> footnotes are in that and likely to be removed by people replying to >> your mail. >> > > How does footnote.el find the signature? I assumed before that > signatures are free-form and therefore unfindable algorithmically, but > that seems to be a mistake on my part. If that's the case, the > mechanism can be grafted into org-footnote.el, perhaps with an expanded > meaning of org-footnote-placement: in addition to nil or a string, it > can be a symbol, say 'before-signature, and that can be set in an appropriate > mail composition hook. > > Nick > > Hi, there is no stringent relation between footnote.el and mail. It's misplaced IMHO, mentioned that years ago BTW, it belongs into text-modes directory. Keeping things easy, it seems preferable to have a working common footnote first and reflect the use in mails resp. signature issue afterwards. Andreas -- https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/python-mode-components https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/