From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: moving more cl seq/mapping support into core Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 10:33:48 -0700 Message-ID: <4CAA0FFC.5020809@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1286213644 22429 80.91.229.12 (4 Oct 2010 17:34:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 17:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: MON KEY , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 04 19:34:03 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2ovL-0003Nk-13 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:34:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35595 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P2ovK-0000Hd-JG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57457 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P2ovF-0000HS-1u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2ovD-00011U-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:33:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:56990) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2ovC-00010P-A2; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:33:54 -0400 Original-Received: by pwj6 with SMTP id 6so3588513pwj.0 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 10:33:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S3yLqOX0I8VxsUzR6VmAETytFVQem/jfnpIDzCTOc/Q=; b=b1xC48ncDBrwb+pXMDOjJlfiI3srUQF6Af2NUdRV6wM2q/Qks3Xb+qKLpzkyUmOTEo E+fp46lFyLE3nqgkmn3CblOHaX3MOcyxWZXq6IBcoCEVW858/QvRgS87MH4EQDufKhFK v6GrMpj2eSIDr3yn8Pk5HiMBYxC9N1OYUF5q4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YEVyH6ROf/su7g1CRs/szHknkXErV3Jl7gWZ8r6Np6L0tzZW1BkCuw/bPpGlS8bUaH yfvYKvga4UYHQdJZwTrZw6t9FNPZbfQF02EwjhuCo06U/w/P9bOaSuAdxw4oiHZSLFSG vZuqvmizepKlsRAqW0eCfCsFHvIsFo3Dx1LKg= Original-Received: by 10.114.127.17 with SMTP id z17mr11900574wac.89.1286213632470; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 10:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [0.0.0.0] (c-67-183-23-114.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.183.23.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x9sm9733446waj.3.2010.10.04.10.33.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 Oct 2010 10:33:50 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131327 Archived-At: On 10/3/2010 7:03 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Whatever the current/existing rationales may be, surely _some_ will > cease to be relevant by any reasonably sane justification in lieu of > lexically scoped environments. > > I don't think that relates to this issue. > This issue is about global names. > _What_ global names? cl.el is _already_ widely used. What symbols actually cause a problem _in practice_, _today_?