From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7004: 23.2; In fullscreen mode, the echo area takes too much vertical space Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4C920919.500@gmx.at> References: <4C89F3E3.6080804@swipnet.se> <4C8A3D5F.10502@swipnet.se> <4C8AC907.80102@harpegolden.net> <4C8B34C6.5060906@swipnet.se> <83r5gx4y6e.fsf@gnu.org> <4C8E748F.5040107@swipnet.se> <83aanl4fm3.fsf@gnu.org> <4C8E8E3B.7010305@swipnet.se> <831v8x49p3.fsf@gnu.org> <4C8F1E31.8030904@gmx.at> <83vd682puw.fsf@gnu.org> <4C906F09.2030809@gmx.at> <83fwxa3iug.fsf@gnu.org> <4C91C5E8.50508@gmx.at> <4C91F87D.4070306@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284639075 20676 80.91.229.12 (16 Sep 2010 12:11:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7004@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 16 14:11:14 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwDJ3-0002gp-Vg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:11:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32846 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OwDJ3-0001xp-8K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59175 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OwDIl-0001qO-2l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwDId-0004bK-1C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:10:54 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51975) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwDIc-0004bG-Un for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwDFy-0004jO-2B; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7004 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7004-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7004.128463886818179 (code B ref 7004); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7004) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2010 12:07:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwDFj-0004jA-PY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:07:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwDFg-0004j2-G2 for 7004@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:07:45 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Sep 2010 12:10:02 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-43-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.43.245]) [62.47.43.245] by mail.gmx.net (mp071) with SMTP; 16 Sep 2010 14:10:02 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+lvv5QQa+lemT9C6YfPrwE0LQaugjfGk98B22Tue knAYc6hg6kfWDC User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <4C91F87D.4070306@swipnet.se> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:08:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:40211 Archived-At: > Did you read "... when not using the X toolkit ..."? The doc-string of `frame-pixel-height' tells me that In the Gtk+ version of Emacs, it includes only any window (including the minibuffer or eacho area), mode line, and header line. It does not include the tool bar or menu bar. With the Motif or Lucid toolkits, it also includes the tool bar (but not the menu bar). so this should take care of the remaining cases. Or am I missing something? > These just act as booleans for the non-native case, i.e. anything > non-zero means on. Maybe that's the reason why my maximized frame starts out as not really full-screen-height and changes to full-screen height after some dialogue in the minibuffer-window. Also, on a tiled screen the Emacs frame is the only "window" that doesn't entirely fill the space assigned by the window manager. On Windows XP with toolbar-mode turned off. martin