From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6774@debbugs.gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it
Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working?
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:51:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C68FBF7.1080104@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tl7zkwn0y7q.fsf@m17n.org>
2010-08-16 10:16, Kenichi Handa skrev:
> In article<jwvpqxmbz0i.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
>>> And, first of all, from a user point of view, as these two
>>> highlights a region exactly the same way (with the default
>>> setting),
>>> (1) S-C-n
>>> (2) C-@ C-n
>>> it's very confusing that they behave differently as to
>>> selection.
>
>> I haven't seen any report indicating that users really get confused
>> by that.
>
> As I don't like transient-mark-mode (both the default one
> and the temporary one), I have not used it. But, for the
> discussion of this thread, I tried it and found the current
> behaviour is confusing.
>
>> But I'm not opposed to eliminating this confusion. I just
>> really don't want to see it implemented in set_point_both, and I'm not
>> excited to seeing it in command_loop_1 either.
>
> How about this?
>
> We own the primary selection when mark is activated by C-@
> in transient-mark-mode or C-@ C-@ not in
> transient-mark-mode, and record somehow that selection is
> owned that way (i.e. selection contents is a text in the
> region). At that time the contents is null, but I think
> it's not the problem. We do nothing special for all point
> moving commands (except for highlighting the region). When
> Emacs receives selection request, it returns the text in the
> region if the selection is still owned as the above way. We
> disown the selection when mark is deactivated.
>
I though we where moving away from special cases? Anyway, empty selection do
matter. Consider this case:
I select a lot of code in another application.
I go to Emacs and set mark, then paste the code with mouse-2 and then M-x
indent-region.
With your scheme, mouse-2 would fail to paste, which would be a nasty surprise.
Jan D.
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-01 22:04 bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Angelo Graziosi
2010-08-02 4:12 ` David De La Harpe Golden
[not found] ` <4C56C8F0.2010104@alice.it>
2010-08-02 14:52 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 19:41 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 20:30 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:53 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:59 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 21:35 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 22:26 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-05 2:20 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05 23:50 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06 9:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-06 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06 12:21 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-06 13:17 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-06 20:23 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 20:17 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 15:28 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-06 21:05 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-07 19:50 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-07 23:05 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-09 2:55 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-09 11:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-09 17:19 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10 7:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 14:01 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10 15:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 17:59 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 7:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 16:06 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 20:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 21:26 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 3:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12 7:43 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-12 7:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12 8:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 12:14 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 17:11 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-13 10:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-13 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-13 6:18 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-13 10:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-16 8:16 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-16 8:51 ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2010-08-17 1:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17 5:52 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17 8:24 ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17 11:43 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17 12:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 12:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-18 7:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 20:59 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-18 7:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-07 23:08 ` Angelo Graziosi
[not found] ` <mailman.23.1280783288.5118.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-08-03 14:34 ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:15 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 15:31 ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:45 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 16:02 ` Miles Bader
2010-08-04 18:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-04 18:25 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-04 21:10 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-04 21:36 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05 0:17 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05 0:24 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05 0:33 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05 0:40 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-02 13:33 ` Angelo Graziosi
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