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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6774@debbugs.gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it
Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working?
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:51:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C68FBF7.1080104@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tl7zkwn0y7q.fsf@m17n.org>

2010-08-16 10:16, Kenichi Handa skrev:
> In article<jwvpqxmbz0i.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>  writes:
>
>>> And, first of all, from a user point of view, as these two
>>> highlights a region exactly the same way (with the default
>>> setting),
>>>    (1) S-C-n
>>>    (2) C-@ C-n
>>> it's very confusing that they behave differently as to
>>> selection.
>
>> I haven't seen any report indicating that users really get confused
>> by that.
>
> As I don't like transient-mark-mode (both the default one
> and the temporary one), I have not used it.  But, for the
> discussion of this thread, I tried it and found the current
> behaviour is confusing.
>
>> But I'm not opposed to eliminating this confusion.  I just
>> really don't want to see it implemented in set_point_both, and I'm not
>> excited to seeing it in command_loop_1 either.
>
> How about this?
>
> We own the primary selection when mark is activated by C-@
> in transient-mark-mode or C-@ C-@ not in
> transient-mark-mode, and record somehow that selection is
> owned that way (i.e. selection contents is a text in the
> region).  At that time the contents is null, but I think
> it's not the problem.  We do nothing special for all point
> moving commands (except for highlighting the region).  When
> Emacs receives selection request, it returns the text in the
> region if the selection is still owned as the above way.  We
> disown the selection when mark is deactivated.
>

I though we where moving away from special cases?  Anyway, empty selection do 
matter.  Consider this case:

I select a lot of code in another application.
I go to Emacs and set mark, then paste the code with mouse-2 and then M-x 
indent-region.

With your scheme, mouse-2 would fail to paste, which would be a nasty surprise.

	Jan D.







  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-16  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-01 22:04 bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Angelo Graziosi
2010-08-02  4:12 ` David De La Harpe Golden
     [not found]   ` <4C56C8F0.2010104@alice.it>
2010-08-02 14:52     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 19:41   ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 20:30     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:33       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:53       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:59       ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 21:35         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 22:26           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-05  2:20           ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05 23:50             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06  7:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06  9:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-06 10:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06 12:21                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-06 13:17                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-06 20:23                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 20:17                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 15:28               ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-06 21:05                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-07 19:50                   ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-07 23:05                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-09  2:55                       ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-09 11:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-09 17:19                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10  7:29                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 14:01                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10 15:54                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 17:59                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11  7:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 16:06                                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 20:17                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 21:26                                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 21:32                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12  3:54                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12  7:43                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-12  7:51                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12  8:29                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 12:14                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12 16:09                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 17:11                                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-13 10:38                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-13 11:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-13  6:18                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-13 10:40                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-16  8:16                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-16  8:51                                                     ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2010-08-17  1:44                                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17  5:52                                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17  7:17                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17  8:24                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17 10:26                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17 11:43                                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17 12:14                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 12:57                                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-18  7:24                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 20:59                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-18  7:25                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-07 23:08                     ` Angelo Graziosi
     [not found]       ` <mailman.23.1280783288.5118.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-08-03 14:34         ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:15           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 15:31             ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:45               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 16:02                 ` Miles Bader
2010-08-04 18:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-04 18:25                     ` Drew Adams
2010-08-04 21:10                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-04 21:36                         ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05  0:17                           ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05  0:24                             ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05  0:33                               ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05  0:40                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-02 13:33 ` Angelo Graziosi

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