From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: grischka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:24:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4C65AA0B.6070404@gmx.de> References: <4C652D3D.9060402@gmx.de> <19557.16238.796000.809537@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281731103 15108 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2010 20:25:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 13 22:25:00 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ok0oF-0007k4-J2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:24:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48510 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ok0oE-0002JW-Sz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:24:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37286 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ok0o8-0002J1-Rc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:24:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ok0o7-0006nr-J6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:48048 helo=mail.gmx.net) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ok0o7-0006nT-6k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Aug 2010 20:24:49 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (EHLO [10.62.12.158]) [82.113.106.188] by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 13 Aug 2010 22:24:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18588216 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Wfgo05OEW3kTC/oejDHkhc2TF/vPVA5mJwxnYKa RB+oO4LinnooYd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <19557.16238.796000.809537@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128630 Archived-At: Uday S Reddy wrote: > See this page for example > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard > And in how is that relevant to future key binding design? > You haven't stated any reason why you want to leave the Windows key > alone. And, in particular, why you want everybody else to leave their > windows key alone? All I want is emacs to leave my windows key alone. But I'd also want proper menu accelerators via Alt+Letter. You see? > Alt is being used by Emacs as meta. (Not necessary, but pretty much > forced because Emacs doesn't provide any workable alternative.) So > there is no way to "get rid of Alt-letter bindings". Why not? Surely it is possible. > I am not sure you understand what this discussion is about. About how to make scrambled eggs without breaking them? --- grischka > > Uday >