From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Angelo Graziosi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BZR and the bootstrap Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:47:15 +0200 Message-ID: <4C607763.2060209@alice.it> References: <4C5D8EB2.7090601@alice.it> <83zkwwv6k6.fsf@gnu.org> <878w4g4ftu.fsf@telefonica.net> <874of4l1cp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83sk2nvhgy.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281390634 12075 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2010 21:50:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 21:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 23:50:33 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiaEc-000255-RG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:50:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiaEE-0002UW-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:49:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48593 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiaDt-00026s-6T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:49:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiaBu-00009x-IA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:47:31 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp204.alice.it ([82.57.200.100]:57428) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiaBt-00009P-7G; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:47:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [82.57.154.36] (82.57.154.36) by smtp204.alice.it (8.5.124.08) id 4C3B1759019F1CA7; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:47:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; it; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 In-Reply-To: <83sk2nvhgy.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 98 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128512 Archived-At: Il 09/08/2010 19.11, Eli Zaretskii ha scritto: >> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" >> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:57:42 +0900 >> Cc: Angelo Graziosi, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> It's penny-wise and pound-foolish for anybody who is unfamiliar with >> Bazaar to use lightweight checkouts. Occasional contributors and beta >> testers should invest in a full branch, bound or not depending on >> their use cases. > > If it turns out that this is how "bzr status" is supposed to work in > lightweight checkouts, perhaps VC should refrain from calling that > command when it detects a lightweight checkout. Unless someone beats me, I would continue to do what I have always done after the migration to BZR system: $ bzr checkout --lightweight http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk emacs-trunk to be updated with 'bzr up'. Now, if I want avoiding BZR to be called while bootstrapping, I will do: $ rsync -av --exclude=.* --delete emacs-trunk/ emacs/ using 'emacs/' as source tree. Omitting '--lightweight' is good too, but a file '.bzr' of 200M is annoying if one wants to save the bzr tree in a tar-ball archive (to be used on other systems, for example). Ciao, Angelo.