From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:35:25 +0800 Message-ID: <4C5B66DD.2060901@gnu.org> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4C5B5C39.9090104@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281058574 6333 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2010 01:36:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 01:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 03:36:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhBr1-0005YI-91 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 03:36:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46274 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhBr0-0004UW-N2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60135 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhBqu-0004UR-7Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:36:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhBqs-0006A8-Ol for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:35853) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhBqs-0006A3-Jp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: by pwj7 with SMTP id 7so693741pwj.0 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mFi4j7re2ldtY4TLqnc5zekHpOYeR6W9YYBwiyIqzDs=; b=HJfCMeUh+WPP8eBDrun7KxRxlC63pn8lZ98LajoPT30iD3U3l+Ek2MHnLxeX3wvmtV nK4vuigKunkwsmBfgSFewz8D7bF27nYNB6D2gxEvQBrzCsY3wlrxpH3rTQqNyIuM359F TJxuYNMySl5GXa4YMOjc8tugOlBpmtIr1aaPo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SZX1F4LVeOiIWWtfnJ7j6tM9/XLi4THKF0G5pQKmUmWm91LbAHymLz9SATRppxPPIX fpstBMMYReAO6WcuO9S+9A7wg7JvxQIdj6GKZvQrrIaTjH1ewDZAY+8CuOrnJOPTlNUP mP7oJmosdbGMWljNHSlwr4x1rNOc1PJw4iDU8= Original-Received: by 10.142.151.4 with SMTP id y4mr9724850wfd.273.1281058561644; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.1.1.55] ([61.4.103.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q6sm1613751waj.22.2010.08.05.18.35.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:36:00 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128335 Archived-At: On 06/08/2010 09:28, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Jason Rumney wrote: > >> When I search the web for information about Low Level Keyboard Hooks, about >> 80% of the results are about using them to override Alt-TAB behaviour. I >> find it curious that you claim this cannot be done as part of your >> justification for moving Meta from Alt to the Windows key, when your >> solution involves what would be the solution to the Alt-TAB problem. >> > That is interesting. Something might have changed since I did this - > after all some years has passed and MS are now and then changing these > things. Can you please give some links?\ > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/226359 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302329.aspx http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2490577/suppress-task-switch-keys-winkey-alt-tab-alt-esc-ctrl-esc-using-low-level-ke