From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:50:01 +0800 Message-ID: <4C5B5C39.9090104@gnu.org> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281055852 32687 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2010 00:50:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 00:50:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 02:50:50 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhB96-0008KV-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 02:50:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50259 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhB95-0002x7-El for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36189 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhB8z-0002x2-JP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:50:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhB8y-0007xa-If for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:50:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:44264) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhB8y-0007xV-Di for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:50:40 -0400 Original-Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so5874642pzk.0 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:50:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yUgLZNCrypDJN34G8kpxV690EaacmrZKqDIZSm5SiGs=; b=EEwjs0nUqkUif9TUKOkaKauaDwq1OMm2PyIGeyIO3I0Rn9y3aEKKS7PQqNWJizLddD trAL1I34YDx1/s1Mz5uEhtCK055/gYfoViFkPlwTjALJ7buieYA+l3+UCVsv85ZK80tR Wi3KNtP+GNekzrlkUfTpl1tFo8UNTMCDX+alo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E1UYHIX1C2HCs1xM524JWv1RmBJ6Ykfl3+lRmRcsDjdRYRRGLQk0ahIMHifBlWN4vV 5OxpttgcWL8w4DpmT4TbjqIDnIyuagjJ0XddAvmNfyukTIkl7InzwObPYpvJX/Q6ksno nvzNuptgta1APKe6aLNv80/O8ekOpuGdo85KE= Original-Received: by 10.114.103.19 with SMTP id a19mr13223633wac.81.1281055838735; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.1.1.55] ([61.4.103.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x9sm1550641waj.3.2010.08.05.17.50.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128333 Archived-At: On 05/08/2010 21:22, Lennart Borgman wrote: > You can not override Alt-TAB so that you can use it to switch w32 > windows is because ms has decided it to work that way. > When I search the web for information about Low Level Keyboard Hooks, about 80% of the results are about using them to override Alt-TAB behaviour. I find it curious that you claim this cannot be done as part of your justification for moving Meta from Alt to the Windows key, when your solution involves what would be the solution to the Alt-TAB problem.