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From: Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working?
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:33:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C56C93A.8010608@alice.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C55EF50.3080100@alice.it>

Il 02/08/2010 6.12, David De La Harpe Golden ha scritto:
> On 01/08/10 23:04, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
>> It seems that with recent trunk sources (also with the last,
>> rev.100958), cutting with C-w and then pasting with mouse-2 does not
>> work. To reproduce:
>>
>> 1. emacs -Q &
>>
>> 2. In the 'scratch' buffer double click on some text, 'buffer', for
>> example.
>>
>> 3. Now cut it: C-w
>>
>> 4. Go to the bottom of the buffer and paste with mouse-2: empty!
>>
>> I can paste only with C-y. If at step 3. I use M-w (Copy), then pasting
>> with mouse-2 works.
>>
>
> Yes, there's a problem here - I guess emacs is keeping primary bound to
> a span that's become zero-length. Again.
>
> N.B. your case ideally would work in emacs much like in KDE - but emacs
> still has teething problems and sometimes manages to make primary a
> zero-length string.[this is already "fixed" in the horrible selx branch]
>
>> For example, on Kubuntu, one can cut with C-x and the paste with mouse-2
>> (Konqueror, Kate,...)
>
> Not exactly - not quite what's really going on. There's a spec for how
> this is supposed to work, and KDE follows it.*
>
> When you have _selected_ the text in KDE before hitting C-x, it is made
> available as the "primary" x11 selection (referred to as "the selection"
> in klipper*)
>
> C-x makes the text available as the CLIPBOARD x11 selection while
> removing it from the body of the document. (and it's still available on
> PRIMARY too, where emacs fails).
>
> mouse-2 inserts what's in PRIMARY in KDE.
>
> So in KDE, try selecting more/different text, _without_ hitting C-x or
> C-c. This will change only PRIMARY.
>
> Hitting mouse-2 again will insert the _new_ PRIMARY.
>
> Then hitting C-v will insert the old CLIPBOARD. To update the clipboard
> you always have to C-x or C-c.
>
> (* though the situation is further complicated by klipper, the KDE
> clipboard daemon, which can be configured to do various strange things
> in this area, I mean KDE's out-of-box defaults).

I do not doubt that, internally, things are different. Anyway, from the
'End User' point of view,

C-w/mouse-2 (in Emacs)

should behave in the same way of

C-X/mouse-2 (in other X applications like Konqueror, Kate etc.)

BTW, if I add the step:

1.1 I choose: Options | C-x/.../C-v Cut and Paste (CUA)

then C-x/mouse-2, in Emacs still does not work!

So, at the moment, Emacs, in this regard (Copy/Paste), from the 'End
User' point of view, behaves differently from other X applications.

Ciao,
Angelo.






      parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-02 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-01 22:04 bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Angelo Graziosi
2010-08-02  4:12 ` David De La Harpe Golden
     [not found]   ` <4C56C8F0.2010104@alice.it>
2010-08-02 14:52     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 19:41   ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 20:30     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:33       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:53       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:59       ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 21:35         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 22:26           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-05  2:20           ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05 23:50             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06  7:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06  9:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-06 10:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06 12:21                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-06 13:17                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-06 20:23                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 20:17                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 15:28               ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-06 21:05                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-07 19:50                   ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-07 23:05                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-09  2:55                       ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-09 11:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-09 17:19                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10  7:29                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 14:01                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10 15:54                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 17:59                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11  7:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 16:06                                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 20:17                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 21:26                                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 21:32                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12  3:54                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12  7:43                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-12  7:51                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12  8:29                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 12:14                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12 16:09                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 17:11                                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-13 10:38                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-13 11:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-13  6:18                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-13 10:40                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-16  8:16                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-16  8:51                                                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17  1:44                                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17  5:52                                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17  7:17                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17  8:24                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17 10:26                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17 11:43                                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17 12:14                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 12:57                                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-18  7:24                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 20:59                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-18  7:25                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-07 23:08                     ` Angelo Graziosi
     [not found]       ` <mailman.23.1280783288.5118.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-08-03 14:34         ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:15           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 15:31             ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:45               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 16:02                 ` Miles Bader
2010-08-04 18:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-04 18:25                     ` Drew Adams
2010-08-04 21:10                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-04 21:36                         ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05  0:17                           ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05  0:24                             ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05  0:33                               ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05  0:40                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-02 13:33 ` Angelo Graziosi [this message]

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