OrgMobile - just a little help?

OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Erwin Panen]

Hi folks,

Trying to get my head round setting up MobileOrg :-)
I don't consider myself a real orgmode expert, but I (seem) to find my 
way round. (This is mainly due to me wanting to "really grasp" anything, 
and of course the combination Emacs / Orgmode / lisp has a seemingly 
neverending list of capabilities - so it takes some time to "grasp" a 
little...)

What am I doing?
- I've set up Emacs / Orgmode on my newly acquired MacBook, this is done 
(see other helfull posts)
- I've MobileOrg on my iPhone and iPad (any sight on a HD update for 
mobileorg?)
- I've also setup a DropBox account, and setup MobileOrg to sync with 
it. - This seems to be working

Now I'm trying to imitate what Richard Moreland has recorded in his 
screencast.
I come to realize that MobileOrg functions / depends on creating agenda 
views.
I'm not very proficient with agenda views, but I've found that any org 
file that I add to the "File list for Agenda" gets synched to my Dropbox 
folder,
and synched to my iPad - So I think this is Ok, and I'm glad I 
understand this.

Now what I'm missing - and here's my real question:
- On my iPad / iPhone I don't see any TODO tags or TAGS appearing.
     I have created Richard's main.org file, and copied over these, but 
I don't see any TODO state or such coming up:
-----------------------------copy--------------------------------
#+STARTUP: showsome
#+TAGS:    { home work garage errand }
#+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) STARTED(s) WAITING(w) APPT(a) | DONe(d)
#+SEQ_TODO: PROJECT | FINISHED
#+SEQ_TODO: INVOICE SENT | RECVD
-----------------------------end copy----------------------------

What am I missing here?

Thanks for your patience & help!

Erwin

Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Erwin Panen]

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Hi,

I'm adding - if attachments allowed - 2 screenshots.
What happens with my main.org file is this:

- It gets synched to my iPhone allright
- On my Outlines list, the main.org file is properly listed
- When I slide to open main.org, the Tasks & Brainstorms items are not 
visible.
- I see there main.org, it says No body text (greyed out), Tdo state: 
None, Priority None, Tags, None
- However, when I tap on "View as Document", I get my tasklist, and I 
can see everything, but off course can't treat them as Todo...

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!

Erwin

On 30/07/2010 11:50, Erwin Panen wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Trying to get my head round setting up MobileOrg :-)
> I don't consider myself a real orgmode expert, but I (seem) to find my
> way round. (This is mainly due to me wanting to "really grasp" anything,
> and of course the combination Emacs / Orgmode / lisp has a seemingly
> neverending list of capabilities - so it takes some time to "grasp" a
> little...)
>
> What am I doing?
> - I've set up Emacs / Orgmode on my newly acquired MacBook, this is done
> (see other helfull posts)
> - I've MobileOrg on my iPhone and iPad (any sight on a HD update for
> mobileorg?)
> - I've also setup a DropBox account, and setup MobileOrg to sync with
> it. - This seems to be working
>
> Now I'm trying to imitate what Richard Moreland has recorded in his
> screencast.
> I come to realize that MobileOrg functions / depends on creating agenda
> views.
> I'm not very proficient with agenda views, but I've found that any org
> file that I add to the "File list for Agenda" gets synched to my Dropbox
> folder,
> and synched to my iPad - So I think this is Ok, and I'm glad I
> understand this.
>
> Now what I'm missing - and here's my real question:
> - On my iPad / iPhone I don't see any TODO tags or TAGS appearing.
> I have created Richard's main.org file, and copied over these, but I
> don't see any TODO state or such coming up:
> -----------------------------copy--------------------------------
> #+STARTUP: showsome
> #+TAGS: { home work garage errand }
> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) STARTED(s) WAITING(w) APPT(a) | DONe(d)
> #+SEQ_TODO: PROJECT | FINISHED
> #+SEQ_TODO: INVOICE SENT | RECVD
> -----------------------------end copy----------------------------
>
> What am I missing here?
>
> Thanks for your patience & help!
>
> Erwin
>
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> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
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Re: Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Richard Moreland]

Hi Erwin,

There are a few touch regions on each table row in an outline in
MobileOrg.  If you tap the blue icon at the right of each row, you
will view the details for that node (IMG_0019.PNG).  This is useful
for editing a node's contents, todo state, etc.

If you want to dig into the outline, just tap more to the left, on the
text of the node (in this case, "main.org").  That should present you
with the child nodes of the file, and you can continue digging down
from there.

Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more trouble.

-Richard

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Erwin Panen <erwinpanen@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm adding - if attachments allowed - 2 screenshots.
> What happens with my main.org file is this:
>
> - It gets synched to my iPhone allright
> - On my Outlines list, the main.org file is properly listed
> - When I slide to open main.org, the Tasks & Brainstorms items are not
> visible.
> - I see there main.org, it says No body text (greyed out), Tdo state: None,
> Priority None, Tags, None
> - However, when I tap on "View as Document", I get my tasklist, and I can
> see everything, but off course can't treat them as Todo...
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Erwin
>
> On 30/07/2010 11:50, Erwin Panen wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Trying to get my head round setting up MobileOrg :-)
>> I don't consider myself a real orgmode expert, but I (seem) to find my
>> way round. (This is mainly due to me wanting to "really grasp" anything,
>> and of course the combination Emacs / Orgmode / lisp has a seemingly
>> neverending list of capabilities - so it takes some time to "grasp" a
>> little...)
>>
>> What am I doing?
>> - I've set up Emacs / Orgmode on my newly acquired MacBook, this is done
>> (see other helfull posts)
>> - I've MobileOrg on my iPhone and iPad (any sight on a HD update for
>> mobileorg?)
>> - I've also setup a DropBox account, and setup MobileOrg to sync with
>> it. - This seems to be working
>>
>> Now I'm trying to imitate what Richard Moreland has recorded in his
>> screencast.
>> I come to realize that MobileOrg functions / depends on creating agenda
>> views.
>> I'm not very proficient with agenda views, but I've found that any org
>> file that I add to the "File list for Agenda" gets synched to my Dropbox
>> folder,
>> and synched to my iPad - So I think this is Ok, and I'm glad I
>> understand this.
>>
>> Now what I'm missing - and here's my real question:
>> - On my iPad / iPhone I don't see any TODO tags or TAGS appearing.
>> I have created Richard's main.org file, and copied over these, but I
>> don't see any TODO state or such coming up:
>> -----------------------------copy--------------------------------
>> #+STARTUP: showsome
>> #+TAGS: { home work garage errand }
>> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) STARTED(s) WAITING(w) APPT(a) | DONe(d)
>> #+SEQ_TODO: PROJECT | FINISHED
>> #+SEQ_TODO: INVOICE SENT | RECVD
>> -----------------------------end copy----------------------------
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>> Thanks for your patience & help!
>>
>> Erwin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>
>
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Re: Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Greg Troxel]

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  There are a few touch regions on each table row in an outline in
  MobileOrg.  If you tap the blue icon at the right of each row, you
  will view the details for that node (IMG_0019.PNG).  This is useful
  for editing a node's contents, todo state, etc.

  If you want to dig into the outline, just tap more to the left, on the
  text of the node (in this case, "main.org").  That should present you
  with the child nodes of the file, and you can continue digging down
  from there.

FWIW, this confused me too.  Perhaps a thin vertical line to separate
the active touch regions as a clue that there are two?

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Re: Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Erwin Panen]

Richard, thanks for clarifying.
I feel like such a moron :-)
I'm fighting with this for such a long time - and it's so obvious...

A couple more questions:
- Suppose I have my main.org, containing a tasklist.
     Is it correct that, on the mobile device, I can only change status, 
priority & tags
     But I can't add a new *task* or item??
- I'm also confused about file location(s)
     1. org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
     2. org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/git/org/from-mobile.org"
     I've also read that "By default all agenda files (as listed in 
org-agenda-files)" are pushed to MobileOrg using Push / Pull
     Is it then true, that e.g. agenda files located in ~/git/org/ will 
ALSO by synched to MobileOrg?
- Lastly (for now :-) )
     What is the purpose of the "Show app badge" in Settings on the iPad
     Do you have any plans for a HD version? (iPad)

Thanks a lot for this tremendous App!
And your precious help :-)

Erwin

On 30/07/2010 13:40, Richard Moreland wrote:
> Hi Erwin,
>
> There are a few touch regions on each table row in an outline in
> MobileOrg.  If you tap the blue icon at the right of each row, you
> will view the details for that node (IMG_0019.PNG).  This is useful
> for editing a node's contents, todo state, etc.
>
> If you want to dig into the outline, just tap more to the left, on the
> text of the node (in this case, "main.org").  That should present you
> with the child nodes of the file, and you can continue digging down
> from there.
>
> Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more trouble.
>
> -Richard
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Erwin Panen<erwinpanen@fastmail.fm>  wrote:
>    
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm adding - if attachments allowed - 2 screenshots.
>> What happens with my main.org file is this:
>>
>> - It gets synched to my iPhone allright
>> - On my Outlines list, the main.org file is properly listed
>> - When I slide to open main.org, the Tasks&  Brainstorms items are not
>> visible.
>> - I see there main.org, it says No body text (greyed out), Tdo state: None,
>> Priority None, Tags, None
>> - However, when I tap on "View as Document", I get my tasklist, and I can
>> see everything, but off course can't treat them as Todo...
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Erwin
>>
>> On 30/07/2010 11:50, Erwin Panen wrote:
>>      
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Trying to get my head round setting up MobileOrg :-)
>>> I don't consider myself a real orgmode expert, but I (seem) to find my
>>> way round. (This is mainly due to me wanting to "really grasp" anything,
>>> and of course the combination Emacs / Orgmode / lisp has a seemingly
>>> neverending list of capabilities - so it takes some time to "grasp" a
>>> little...)
>>>
>>> What am I doing?
>>> - I've set up Emacs / Orgmode on my newly acquired MacBook, this is done
>>> (see other helfull posts)
>>> - I've MobileOrg on my iPhone and iPad (any sight on a HD update for
>>> mobileorg?)
>>> - I've also setup a DropBox account, and setup MobileOrg to sync with
>>> it. - This seems to be working
>>>
>>> Now I'm trying to imitate what Richard Moreland has recorded in his
>>> screencast.
>>> I come to realize that MobileOrg functions / depends on creating agenda
>>> views.
>>> I'm not very proficient with agenda views, but I've found that any org
>>> file that I add to the "File list for Agenda" gets synched to my Dropbox
>>> folder,
>>> and synched to my iPad - So I think this is Ok, and I'm glad I
>>> understand this.
>>>
>>> Now what I'm missing - and here's my real question:
>>> - On my iPad / iPhone I don't see any TODO tags or TAGS appearing.
>>> I have created Richard's main.org file, and copied over these, but I
>>> don't see any TODO state or such coming up:
>>> -----------------------------copy--------------------------------
>>> #+STARTUP: showsome
>>> #+TAGS: { home work garage errand }
>>> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) STARTED(s) WAITING(w) APPT(a) | DONe(d)
>>> #+SEQ_TODO: PROJECT | FINISHED
>>> #+SEQ_TODO: INVOICE SENT | RECVD
>>> -----------------------------end copy----------------------------
>>>
>>> What am I missing here?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patience&  help!
>>>
>>> Erwin
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>
>>>        
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
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>>
>>
>>      

Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Erwin Panen]

I'm still not getting it... Must be really stupid :-(
This is the message buffer with the error I get when I try to 
org-mobile-push
------------------start error----------------
Creating agendas...done
Saving all Org-mode buffers...
Saving file /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org...
Wrote /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org
Saving all Org-mode buffers... done
Copying files...
org-mobile-copy-agenda-files: Input and output files are the same: 
Unknown error: 0, /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/main.org, 
/Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/main.org
-----------------end error-------------------

This is what I did:
- created new_tasklist.org in ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg and put some tasks & 
scheduled stuff inside
- opened up ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org and appended the newly created 
file at the end like [[file:new_tasklist.org][new_tasklist.org]]
- did org-mobile-push

Hope to get this straight asap!
It would be sooooo great :-)
Thanks for sticking with me!

Erwin



On 30/07/10 14:42, Erwin Panen wrote:
> Richard, thanks for clarifying.
> I feel like such a moron :-)
> I'm fighting with this for such a long time - and it's so obvious...
>
> A couple more questions:
> - Suppose I have my main.org, containing a tasklist.
> Is it correct that, on the mobile device, I can only change status,
> priority & tags
> But I can't add a new *task* or item??
> - I'm also confused about file location(s)
> 1. org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
> 2. org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/git/org/from-mobile.org"
> I've also read that "By default all agenda files (as listed in
> org-agenda-files)" are pushed to MobileOrg using Push / Pull
> Is it then true, that e.g. agenda files located in ~/git/org/ will ALSO
> by synched to MobileOrg?
> - Lastly (for now :-) )
> What is the purpose of the "Show app badge" in Settings on the iPad
> Do you have any plans for a HD version? (iPad)
>
> Thanks a lot for this tremendous App!
> And your precious help :-)
>
> Erwin
>
> On 30/07/2010 13:40, Richard Moreland wrote:
>> Hi Erwin,
>>
>> There are a few touch regions on each table row in an outline in
>> MobileOrg. If you tap the blue icon at the right of each row, you
>> will view the details for that node (IMG_0019.PNG). This is useful
>> for editing a node's contents, todo state, etc.
>>
>> If you want to dig into the outline, just tap more to the left, on the
>> text of the node (in this case, "main.org"). That should present you
>> with the child nodes of the file, and you can continue digging down
>> from there.
>>
>> Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more trouble.
>>
>> -Richard
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Erwin Panen<erwinpanen@fastmail.fm>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm adding - if attachments allowed - 2 screenshots.
>>> What happens with my main.org file is this:
>>>
>>> - It gets synched to my iPhone allright
>>> - On my Outlines list, the main.org file is properly listed
>>> - When I slide to open main.org, the Tasks& Brainstorms items are not
>>> visible.
>>> - I see there main.org, it says No body text (greyed out), Tdo state:
>>> None,
>>> Priority None, Tags, None
>>> - However, when I tap on "View as Document", I get my tasklist, and I
>>> can
>>> see everything, but off course can't treat them as Todo...
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Erwin
>>>
>>> On 30/07/2010 11:50, Erwin Panen wrote:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> Trying to get my head round setting up MobileOrg :-)
>>>> I don't consider myself a real orgmode expert, but I (seem) to find my
>>>> way round. (This is mainly due to me wanting to "really grasp"
>>>> anything,
>>>> and of course the combination Emacs / Orgmode / lisp has a seemingly
>>>> neverending list of capabilities - so it takes some time to "grasp" a
>>>> little...)
>>>>
>>>> What am I doing?
>>>> - I've set up Emacs / Orgmode on my newly acquired MacBook, this is
>>>> done
>>>> (see other helfull posts)
>>>> - I've MobileOrg on my iPhone and iPad (any sight on a HD update for
>>>> mobileorg?)
>>>> - I've also setup a DropBox account, and setup MobileOrg to sync with
>>>> it. - This seems to be working
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm trying to imitate what Richard Moreland has recorded in his
>>>> screencast.
>>>> I come to realize that MobileOrg functions / depends on creating agenda
>>>> views.
>>>> I'm not very proficient with agenda views, but I've found that any org
>>>> file that I add to the "File list for Agenda" gets synched to my
>>>> Dropbox
>>>> folder,
>>>> and synched to my iPad - So I think this is Ok, and I'm glad I
>>>> understand this.
>>>>
>>>> Now what I'm missing - and here's my real question:
>>>> - On my iPad / iPhone I don't see any TODO tags or TAGS appearing.
>>>> I have created Richard's main.org file, and copied over these, but I
>>>> don't see any TODO state or such coming up:
>>>> -----------------------------copy--------------------------------
>>>> #+STARTUP: showsome
>>>> #+TAGS: { home work garage errand }
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) STARTED(s) WAITING(w) APPT(a) | DONe(d)
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: PROJECT | FINISHED
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: INVOICE SENT | RECVD
>>>> -----------------------------end copy----------------------------
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing here?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your patience& help!
>>>>
>>>> Erwin
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>
>>>
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Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Erwin Panen]

I'm still not getting it... Must be really stupid :-(
This is the message buffer with the error I get when I try to 
org-mobile-push
------------------start error----------------
Creating agendas...done
Saving all Org-mode buffers...
Saving file /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org...
Wrote /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org
Saving all Org-mode buffers... done
Copying files...
org-mobile-copy-agenda-files: Input and output files are the same: 
Unknown error: 0, /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/main.org, 
/Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/main.org
-----------------end error-------------------

This is what I did:
- created new_tasklist.org in ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg and put some tasks & 
scheduled stuff inside
- opened up ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org and appended the newly created 
file at the end like [[file:new_tasklist.org][new_tasklist.org]]
- did org-mobile-push

Hope to get this straight asap!
It would be sooooo great :-)
Thanks for sticking with me!

Erwin



On 30/07/10 14:42, Erwin Panen wrote:
> Richard, thanks for clarifying.
> I feel like such a moron :-)
> I'm fighting with this for such a long time - and it's so obvious...
>
> A couple more questions:
> - Suppose I have my main.org, containing a tasklist.
> Is it correct that, on the mobile device, I can only change status,
> priority & tags
> But I can't add a new *task* or item??
> - I'm also confused about file location(s)
> 1. org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
> 2. org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/git/org/from-mobile.org"
> I've also read that "By default all agenda files (as listed in
> org-agenda-files)" are pushed to MobileOrg using Push / Pull
> Is it then true, that e.g. agenda files located in ~/git/org/ will ALSO
> by synched to MobileOrg?
> - Lastly (for now :-) )
> What is the purpose of the "Show app badge" in Settings on the iPad
> Do you have any plans for a HD version? (iPad)
>
> Thanks a lot for this tremendous App!
> And your precious help :-)
>
> Erwin
>
> On 30/07/2010 13:40, Richard Moreland wrote:
>> Hi Erwin,
>>
>> There are a few touch regions on each table row in an outline in
>> MobileOrg. If you tap the blue icon at the right of each row, you
>> will view the details for that node (IMG_0019.PNG). This is useful
>> for editing a node's contents, todo state, etc.
>>
>> If you want to dig into the outline, just tap more to the left, on the
>> text of the node (in this case, "main.org"). That should present you
>> with the child nodes of the file, and you can continue digging down
>> from there.
>>
>> Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more trouble.
>>
>> -Richard
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Erwin Panen<erwinpanen@fastmail.fm>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm adding - if attachments allowed - 2 screenshots.
>>> What happens with my main.org file is this:
>>>
>>> - It gets synched to my iPhone allright
>>> - On my Outlines list, the main.org file is properly listed
>>> - When I slide to open main.org, the Tasks& Brainstorms items are not
>>> visible.
>>> - I see there main.org, it says No body text (greyed out), Tdo state:
>>> None,
>>> Priority None, Tags, None
>>> - However, when I tap on "View as Document", I get my tasklist, and I
>>> can
>>> see everything, but off course can't treat them as Todo...
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Erwin
>>>
>>> On 30/07/2010 11:50, Erwin Panen wrote:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> Trying to get my head round setting up MobileOrg :-)
>>>> I don't consider myself a real orgmode expert, but I (seem) to find my
>>>> way round. (This is mainly due to me wanting to "really grasp"
>>>> anything,
>>>> and of course the combination Emacs / Orgmode / lisp has a seemingly
>>>> neverending list of capabilities - so it takes some time to "grasp" a
>>>> little...)
>>>>
>>>> What am I doing?
>>>> - I've set up Emacs / Orgmode on my newly acquired MacBook, this is
>>>> done
>>>> (see other helfull posts)
>>>> - I've MobileOrg on my iPhone and iPad (any sight on a HD update for
>>>> mobileorg?)
>>>> - I've also setup a DropBox account, and setup MobileOrg to sync with
>>>> it. - This seems to be working
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm trying to imitate what Richard Moreland has recorded in his
>>>> screencast.
>>>> I come to realize that MobileOrg functions / depends on creating agenda
>>>> views.
>>>> I'm not very proficient with agenda views, but I've found that any org
>>>> file that I add to the "File list for Agenda" gets synched to my
>>>> Dropbox
>>>> folder,
>>>> and synched to my iPad - So I think this is Ok, and I'm glad I
>>>> understand this.
>>>>
>>>> Now what I'm missing - and here's my real question:
>>>> - On my iPad / iPhone I don't see any TODO tags or TAGS appearing.
>>>> I have created Richard's main.org file, and copied over these, but I
>>>> don't see any TODO state or such coming up:
>>>> -----------------------------copy--------------------------------
>>>> #+STARTUP: showsome
>>>> #+TAGS: { home work garage errand }
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) STARTED(s) WAITING(w) APPT(a) | DONe(d)
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: PROJECT | FINISHED
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: INVOICE SENT | RECVD
>>>> -----------------------------end copy----------------------------
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing here?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your patience& help!
>>>>
>>>> Erwin
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Erwin Panen]

I'm still not getting it... Must be really stupid :-(
This is the message buffer with the error I get when I try to 
org-mobile-push
------------------start error----------------
Creating agendas...done
Saving all Org-mode buffers...
Saving file /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org...
Wrote /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org
Saving all Org-mode buffers... done
Copying files...
org-mobile-copy-agenda-files: Input and output files are the same: 
Unknown error: 0, /Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/main.org, 
/Users/erwin/Dropbox/MobileOrg/main.org
-----------------end error-------------------

This is what I did:
- created new_tasklist.org in ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg and put some tasks & 
scheduled stuff inside
- opened up ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg/index.org and appended the newly created 
file at the end like [[file:new_tasklist.org][new_tasklist.org]]
- did org-mobile-push

Hope to get this straight asap!
It would be sooooo great :-)
Thanks for sticking with me!

Erwin



On 30/07/10 14:42, Erwin Panen wrote:
> Richard, thanks for clarifying.
> I feel like such a moron :-)
> I'm fighting with this for such a long time - and it's so obvious...
>
> A couple more questions:
> - Suppose I have my main.org, containing a tasklist.
> Is it correct that, on the mobile device, I can only change status,
> priority & tags
> But I can't add a new *task* or item??
> - I'm also confused about file location(s)
> 1. org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
> 2. org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/git/org/from-mobile.org"
> I've also read that "By default all agenda files (as listed in
> org-agenda-files)" are pushed to MobileOrg using Push / Pull
> Is it then true, that e.g. agenda files located in ~/git/org/ will ALSO
> by synched to MobileOrg?
> - Lastly (for now :-) )
> What is the purpose of the "Show app badge" in Settings on the iPad
> Do you have any plans for a HD version? (iPad)
>
> Thanks a lot for this tremendous App!
> And your precious help :-)
>
> Erwin
>
> On 30/07/2010 13:40, Richard Moreland wrote:
>> Hi Erwin,
>>
>> There are a few touch regions on each table row in an outline in
>> MobileOrg. If you tap the blue icon at the right of each row, you
>> will view the details for that node (IMG_0019.PNG). This is useful
>> for editing a node's contents, todo state, etc.
>>
>> If you want to dig into the outline, just tap more to the left, on the
>> text of the node (in this case, "main.org"). That should present you
>> with the child nodes of the file, and you can continue digging down
>> from there.
>>
>> Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more trouble.
>>
>> -Richard
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Erwin Panen<erwinpanen@fastmail.fm>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm adding - if attachments allowed - 2 screenshots.
>>> What happens with my main.org file is this:
>>>
>>> - It gets synched to my iPhone allright
>>> - On my Outlines list, the main.org file is properly listed
>>> - When I slide to open main.org, the Tasks& Brainstorms items are not
>>> visible.
>>> - I see there main.org, it says No body text (greyed out), Tdo state:
>>> None,
>>> Priority None, Tags, None
>>> - However, when I tap on "View as Document", I get my tasklist, and I
>>> can
>>> see everything, but off course can't treat them as Todo...
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Erwin
>>>
>>> On 30/07/2010 11:50, Erwin Panen wrote:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> Trying to get my head round setting up MobileOrg :-)
>>>> I don't consider myself a real orgmode expert, but I (seem) to find my
>>>> way round. (This is mainly due to me wanting to "really grasp"
>>>> anything,
>>>> and of course the combination Emacs / Orgmode / lisp has a seemingly
>>>> neverending list of capabilities - so it takes some time to "grasp" a
>>>> little...)
>>>>
>>>> What am I doing?
>>>> - I've set up Emacs / Orgmode on my newly acquired MacBook, this is
>>>> done
>>>> (see other helfull posts)
>>>> - I've MobileOrg on my iPhone and iPad (any sight on a HD update for
>>>> mobileorg?)
>>>> - I've also setup a DropBox account, and setup MobileOrg to sync with
>>>> it. - This seems to be working
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm trying to imitate what Richard Moreland has recorded in his
>>>> screencast.
>>>> I come to realize that MobileOrg functions / depends on creating agenda
>>>> views.
>>>> I'm not very proficient with agenda views, but I've found that any org
>>>> file that I add to the "File list for Agenda" gets synched to my
>>>> Dropbox
>>>> folder,
>>>> and synched to my iPad - So I think this is Ok, and I'm glad I
>>>> understand this.
>>>>
>>>> Now what I'm missing - and here's my real question:
>>>> - On my iPad / iPhone I don't see any TODO tags or TAGS appearing.
>>>> I have created Richard's main.org file, and copied over these, but I
>>>> don't see any TODO state or such coming up:
>>>> -----------------------------copy--------------------------------
>>>> #+STARTUP: showsome
>>>> #+TAGS: { home work garage errand }
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) STARTED(s) WAITING(w) APPT(a) | DONe(d)
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: PROJECT | FINISHED
>>>> #+SEQ_TODO: INVOICE SENT | RECVD
>>>> -----------------------------end copy----------------------------
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing here?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your patience& help!
>>>>
>>>> Erwin
>>>>
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Re: Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Richard Moreland]

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Erwin Panen <erwinpanen@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> A couple more questions:
> - Suppose I have my main.org, containing a tasklist.
>    Is it correct that, on the mobile device, I can only change status,
> priority & tags
>    But I can't add a new *task* or item??

This is correct, you can't modify the outline's structure.  The idea
is you can edit tasks if you need to (mark as done, edit content, etc)
and you can capture new notes.  When you get back to your PC and you
org-mobile-pull, the changes you made are integrated back into the
real org files on your desktop.  New notes are added into
from-mobile.org for you to refile as you please.  You would then
org-mobile-push again to make sure the server gets the latest
integrated copies.

> - I'm also confused about file location(s)
>    1. org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
>    2. org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/git/org/from-mobile.org"
>    I've also read that "By default all agenda files (as listed in
> org-agenda-files)" are pushed to MobileOrg using Push / Pull
>    Is it then true, that e.g. agenda files located in ~/git/org/ will ALSO
> by synched to MobileOrg?

Sorry, not exactly sure what you mean here, but all files listed in
org-agenda-files are 'staged' during org-mobile-push.  If you have
extra files in ~/git/org/ that aren't in org-agenda-files, they won't
be available in MobileOrg.

>    What is the purpose of the "Show app badge" in Settings on the iPad

It was suggested that the app badge indicate outstanding edits you've
made that haven't been synced yet.  The idea is that you can make some
offline edits and click 'Sync' at your convenience.  The badge helps
you remember to do that.

>    Do you have any plans for a HD version? (iPad)

I've been tinkering with a new version that runs on iOS 4 (to support
the fast app-switching, which is great by the way) and iPad.  There
are some tweaks that need to be made still, if anyone wants to
volunteer I'd be happy to help :)

I think this example configuration might clarify things for you:

;; You should only touch these files, treat them as you normally would
(setq org-directory "~/git/org")

;; You should never touch these files with your editor.
Org-mobile-push and -pull are responsible for putting files into and
pulling files out of this directory.
(setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg")

So in your case, it is probably best to empty the contents of
~/Dropbox/MobileOrg, set the variables as described above, then do an
org-mobile-push again.

Hope this helps,
Richard

Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Erwin Panen]

Richard,

Thanks a lot for your help.
I've done as you indicated: emptied ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
Next verified my .emacs
In fact it was identical to what you advised.
I commented out the line with org-mobile-inbox-for-pull, but this threw 
an error, so I uncommented it back.
At least the sync now runs allright, and I can change status of all.
I found I can add a new Tag value as well - this strikes me as odd in 
contrast to the fact I can't create new content. Perhaps an idea I have 
to get used to.

Also I have probably difficulty in understanding "stage" "staging" could 
you clarify this some more? When I read stage, I think of "on stage" or 
"back-stage" in terms of a theatre, should I think of staging org files 
as putting them on the "mobile iPhone stage"?

Further to the app badge:
Would this then show the number of changes like it shows on the Outlines 
icon or analoguous to e.g. the Mail icon in the iPhones dock?
If yes, on what basis will synching happen.... ?

About your new version:
I have iOS 4 on my iPhone, off course the iPad is not up to iOS 4 yet.
If you think I can be of any help, I'd be glad. But I think I should at 
least first master the functioning better..

I'm not sure if this is possible at all, but I think it would be 
extremely helpfull to kind of create a "PRE CONFIGURED" example setup, 
say in a temporary "LEARNING" directory, you could then perhaps fire up 
emacs using a pre-formatted .emacs file in conjunction with a free 
Dropbox account as an example.
I know it's always easy on the other side to thinker this out, but 
probably this would not be so easy to do. Just my 2 cents of course.
Or elaborate on the video...

I'll try to digg a bit further in the functioning of from-mobile.org
Is there a way to say ACCEPT a new note, and easily move it into the 
correct org file? A bit the way remember mode functions? Using templates 
the same way?

Extremely interesting & helpfull!
Thanks once again!

Erwin

PS Sorry for double posting, SMTP setting on Thunderbird on my Mac was 
not correctly set, hence the double post.

On 30/07/10 15:29, Richard Moreland wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Erwin Panen<erwinpanen@fastmail.fm>  wrote:
>
>> A couple more questions:
>> - Suppose I have my main.org, containing a tasklist.
>>     Is it correct that, on the mobile device, I can only change status,
>> priority&  tags
>>     But I can't add a new *task* or item??
>
> This is correct, you can't modify the outline's structure.  The idea
> is you can edit tasks if you need to (mark as done, edit content, etc)
> and you can capture new notes.  When you get back to your PC and you
> org-mobile-pull, the changes you made are integrated back into the
> real org files on your desktop.  New notes are added into
> from-mobile.org for you to refile as you please.  You would then
> org-mobile-push again to make sure the server gets the latest
> integrated copies.
>
>> - I'm also confused about file location(s)
>>     1. org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
>>     2. org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/git/org/from-mobile.org"
>>     I've also read that "By default all agenda files (as listed in
>> org-agenda-files)" are pushed to MobileOrg using Push / Pull
>>     Is it then true, that e.g. agenda files located in ~/git/org/ will ALSO
>> by synched to MobileOrg?
>
> Sorry, not exactly sure what you mean here, but all files listed in
> org-agenda-files are 'staged' during org-mobile-push.  If you have
> extra files in ~/git/org/ that aren't in org-agenda-files, they won't
> be available in MobileOrg.
>
>>     What is the purpose of the "Show app badge" in Settings on the iPad
>
> It was suggested that the app badge indicate outstanding edits you've
> made that haven't been synced yet.  The idea is that you can make some
> offline edits and click 'Sync' at your convenience.  The badge helps
> you remember to do that.
>
>>     Do you have any plans for a HD version? (iPad)
>
> I've been tinkering with a new version that runs on iOS 4 (to support
> the fast app-switching, which is great by the way) and iPad.  There
> are some tweaks that need to be made still, if anyone wants to
> volunteer I'd be happy to help :)
>
> I think this example configuration might clarify things for you:
>
> ;; You should only touch these files, treat them as you normally would
> (setq org-directory "~/git/org")
>
> ;; You should never touch these files with your editor.
> Org-mobile-push and -pull are responsible for putting files into and
> pulling files out of this directory.
> (setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg")
>
> So in your case, it is probably best to empty the contents of
> ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg, set the variables as described above, then do an
> org-mobile-push again.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Richard
>
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Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Richard Moreland]

Hi Erwin,

On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Erwin Panen wrote:

> Also I have probably difficulty in understanding "stage" "staging" could you clarify this some more? When I read stage, I think of "on stage" or "back-stage" in terms of a theatre, should I think of staging org files as putting them on the "mobile iPhone stage"?

I think that would be fair to say.  The term staging made a bit more sense before Dropbox support was added, since the files were typically "staged" in a local directory then copied to your WebDAV server.

> Further to the app badge:
> Would this then show the number of changes like it shows on the Outlines icon or analoguous to e.g. the Mail icon in the iPhones dock?
> If yes, on what basis will synching happen.... ?

The badge will show the cumulate count of unsynced edit/new notes, so it will be the sum of the red indicator badges that show up on the Outlines and Capture buttons.  When you open the app and press sync, the badge will be cleared.

No background syncing happens at all, it is a manual process triggered by pressing the 'Sync' icon on the main Outlines screen.

> I'm not sure if this is possible at all, but I think it would be extremely helpfull to kind of create a "PRE CONFIGURED" example setup, say in a temporary "LEARNING" directory, you could then perhaps fire up emacs using a pre-formatted .emacs file in conjunction with a free Dropbox account as an example.
> I know it's always easy on the other side to thinker this out, but probably this would not be so easy to do. Just my 2 cents of course.
> Or elaborate on the video...

This is a good idea, I need to make some better videos with instructions of how to get going from the ground up.  I hope to do this soon.

> I'll try to digg a bit further in the functioning of from-mobile.org
> Is there a way to say ACCEPT a new note, and easily move it into the correct org file? A bit the way remember mode functions? Using templates the same way?

This would be interesting, but at present it doesn't do anything fancy.  The idea is to use the refile mechanism and sort them after a pull.

-Richard

Re: Re: OrgMobile - just a little help?

[Greg Troxel]

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Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to> writes:

> On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Erwin Panen wrote:
>
>> Further to the app badge: Would this then show the number of changes
>> like it shows on the Outlines icon or analoguous to e.g. the Mail
>> icon in the iPhones dock?  If yes, on what basis will synching
>> happen.... ?
>
> The badge will show the cumulate count of unsynced edit/new notes, so
> it will be the sum of the red indicator badges that show up on the
> Outlines and Capture buttons.  When you open the app and press sync,
> the badge will be cleared.

Unless there is a problem, I don't see why this should ever be off -
it's normal behavior.  I found the label confusing.  So I'd vote for
deleting the preference and just doing it.  If not, I'd make it negative
and "Suppress needing-sync count in badge".

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