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X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127915 Archived-At: 2010-07-28 08:46, =C3=93scar Fuentes skrev: > Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: >> That doesn't happen. elc-files are portable, and DOC should be also. >> elc-files are in-tree even with an out-tree build, that is one of the >> nice things, not having to do make bootstrap all the time. > > As explained above, if the .elc files are corrupted by a buggy Emacs or > a buggy Emacs ends using healthy .elc files, by sharing the produced > .elc/.el files among several builds you are hiding a bug. Mixing the > products of different builds is never a good idea. Didn't you read what I wrote? Out-of-tree builds use the *SAME* elc file= s,=20 those located in the tree. Adding another out-of-tree build does not rem= ake=20 the elc-files. That is one of the strong reasons to use out-of -tree bui= lds=20 for different configurations. BTW, I used Emacs for more than 20 years and have yet to see a corrupted = elc-file. > > [snip] > >>> So I agree that "don't do that" should be the right answer. >>> >> >> Considering that<> enables a real use-case and "" does not, and the >> fact that using "" gives exactly no benefits what so ever, please >> stick to<>. It is not even less to type. I can't imagine any reason >> for switching now. > > Maybe is my hideous English, but as explained on my original message<> > is giving me problems with some tool. Some code analysis tools is too vague. We are building Emacs right now=20 out-of-tree. If you are going to impose a change on that process again j= ust=20 after it was changed recently, you have to come up with something better = than=20 that. As for the gcc thing, that is intentional, it is how it is suppose= d to=20 work. Jan D.