From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:23:35 -0700 Organization: Censorship Research Center Message-ID: <4C494377.7030801@censorshipresearch.org> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87wrt0e81n.fsf@telefonica.net> <62E9699C07054418AB66F9C5FCB54E5C@us.oracle.com> <87sk3oe3la.fsf@telefonica.net> <1154D96E7D2F401D849266F359E44BB9@us.oracle.com> <87ocecdzou.fsf@telefonica.net> <2256C17F740A425884AD551DE7758056@us.oracle.com> <87fwzodqqm.fsf@telefonica.net> <5138CDF30B2D4B778F948015614DA7BC@us.oracle.com> <87iq4ijtdy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87bpa7uu1e.fsf@kanis.fr> <877hkv2hco.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iq4e593w.fsf@kanis.fr> <87lj9ayp2f.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C493433.4010709@censorshipresearch.org> <4C4942B0.3040405@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279869861 23346 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2010 07:24:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , Emacs development discussions To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 09:24:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCcB-0004XL-T6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:24:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55046 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcCc9-0008Cy-W4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:24:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56650 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcCbf-0008Bl-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:23:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCbb-0004dl-9x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:23:40 -0400 Original-Received: from haystack.austinheap.com ([70.32.98.68]:57244 helo=haystacknetwork.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcCbb-0004da-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:23:39 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 In-Reply-To: <4C4942B0.3040405@swipnet.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127674 Archived-At: On 7/23/10 12:20 AM, Jan Djärv wrote: > There may not be a keyboard command for minimizing the window. And for some bizarre shells, you may have to send SIGSTOP to an application to suspend it; but most environments are reasonable; likewise for windowing systems. > C-z is > so much faster than reaching for the mouse when you are typing. But minimizing Emacs means you've *stopped* typing. :-)