* Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline
@ 2010-05-10 17:40 Martin Pohlack
2010-05-11 9:18 ` Martin Pohlack
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-10 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: org-mode
Hi all,
to practically prevent merge conflicts between the different machines
that I use I want to capture new items not directly under the global
"Inbox" headline, but under "Inbox/$HOSTNAME".
For example, I often capture new items on my desktop and my notebook
and later sync. The new items will always conflict as they are placed as
last child of "Inbox".
I now switched my org-remember templates from statically specifying
"Inbox" as target headline to a helper function:
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(defun my-host-name ()
"Returns the name of the current host minus the domain."
(let ((hostname (downcase (system-name))))
(save-match-data
(substring hostname (string-match "^[^.]+" hostname) (match-end 0)))))
(defun my-org-remember-headline ()
(concatenate 'string "Inbox/" (my-host-name)))
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The problem now is that I would like the target to be:
* Inbox
*** $HOSTNAME
***** new item
Instead, I get this:
* Inbox/$HOSTNAME
*** new items
My question now is how to specify the headline hierarchy here?
Cheers,
Martin
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline 2010-05-10 17:40 Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-11 9:18 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-05-13 15:48 ` Martin Pohlack 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-11 9:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: org-mode Let my rephrase the question. How do I specify the target for a org-remember template such that new entries become children of "b": * a ** b *** new entry If I specify "a/b", a new node named "a/b" is created * a ** b * a/b ** new entry Cheers, Martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline 2010-05-11 9:18 ` Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-13 15:48 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-05-13 17:26 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-05-14 3:42 ` Samuel Wales 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-13 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: org-mode Hi, interest in this problem was indicated to me in private mail, so let my sum up my findings so far. I walked through the code in org-remember.el:org-remember-handler. There seems to be no support for path traversal for the non-interactive case. The first headline matching is found regardless of its depth. I now use the following structure for my plan files: * Inbox *** Inbox:host1 *** Inbox:host2 *** Inbox:host3 I use these two functions for computing the current target headline: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (defun my-host-name () "Returns the name of the current host minus the domain." (let ((hostname (downcase (system-name)))) (save-match-data (substring hostname (string-match "^[^.]+" hostname) (match-end 0))))) (defun my-org-remember-headline () (concatenate 'string "Inbox:" (my-host-name))) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In one of the interactive paths in org-remember-handler, org-refile infrastructure is used for inquiring a target from the user. When refiling, "/" in headline names are replaced with "\". Verbatim "\" in headlines are also presented as "\". That means that "test/test" and "test\test" cannot be distinguished for refiling. Is there a specification of what are valid characters in a headline? Is there interest to define remember targets via paths or via ID? Cheers, Martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline 2010-05-13 15:48 ` Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-13 17:26 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-05-14 3:42 ` Samuel Wales 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2010-05-13 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Pohlack; +Cc: org-mode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 387 bytes --] On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:48:22 +0200, Martin Pohlack <mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > interest in this problem was indicated to me in private mail, so let my > sum up my findings so far. [...] > I use these two functions for computing the current target headline: Thanks for these. Useful to have a summary of the situation and your solution is straightforward enough! [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 75 bytes --] -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline 2010-05-13 15:48 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-05-13 17:26 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2010-05-14 3:42 ` Samuel Wales 2010-05-15 6:42 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Samuel Wales @ 2010-05-14 3:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Pohlack; +Cc: org-mode On 2010-05-13, Martin Pohlack <mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> wrote: > Is there interest to define remember targets via paths or via ID? ID would be useful, I think. -- Q: How many CDC "scientists" does it take to change a lightbulb? A: "You only think it's dark." [CDC has denied a deadly disease for 25 years] ========== Retrovirus: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline 2010-05-14 3:42 ` Samuel Wales @ 2010-05-15 6:42 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-05-18 17:39 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-05-27 9:43 ` Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] Martin Pohlack 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-05-15 6:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: Martin Pohlack, org-mode On May 14, 2010, at 5:42 AM, Samuel Wales wrote: > On 2010-05-13, Martin Pohlack <mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> wrote: >> Is there interest to define remember targets via paths or via ID? > > ID would be useful, I think. ID certainly - path could be useful to avoid ambiguities. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline 2010-05-15 6:42 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2010-05-18 17:39 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-05-27 9:43 ` Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] Martin Pohlack 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-18 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 464 bytes --] Hi, On 15.05.2010 08:42, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On May 14, 2010, at 5:42 AM, Samuel Wales wrote: >> On 2010-05-13, Martin Pohlack<mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> wrote: >>> Is there interest to define remember targets via paths or via ID? >> >> ID would be useful, I think. > > ID certainly - path could be useful to avoid ambiguities. Please find attached a first version of a patch adding support for IDs as remember targets. Feedback welcome. Cheers, Martin [-- Attachment #2: org-remember-id.diff --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 2251 bytes --] This patch adds support for specifying the ID of a target headline. Open issues: * Using a cons cell seems a bit ugly. A string would be fine too but this is already used by the headline itself in the choice element. * The visual appearance of the ID choice is suboptimal. Is there any way to hide the const visually? * The comments in the remember buffer seems to be setup wrong, where must I hook in to support IDs there? diff --git a/home/mpohlack/src/org-mode/lisp/org-remember.el b/org-remember.el index 59e015f..a0dbac4 100644 --- a/home/mpohlack/src/org-mode/lisp/org-remember.el +++ b/org-remember.el @@ -108,7 +108,8 @@ An optional fifth element can specify the headline in that file that should be offered first when the user is asked to file the entry. The default headline is given in the variable `org-remember-default-headline'. When this element is `top' or `bottom', the note will be placed as a level-1 -entry at the beginning or end of the file, respectively. +entry at the beginning or end of the file, respectively. You can also specify +the `ID' of a target headline. An optional sixth element specifies the contexts in which the template will be offered to the user. This element can be a list of major modes @@ -195,7 +196,8 @@ calendar | %:type %:date" (const :tag "Use `org-remember-default-headline'" nil) (const :tag "At beginning of file" top) (const :tag "At end of file" bottom) - (const :tag "In a date tree" date-tree)) + (const :tag "In a date tree" date-tree) + (cons :tag "ID" (const :tag "" ID) (string :tag "ID"))) (choice :tag "Context" (const :tag "Use in all contexts" nil) (const :tag "Use in all contexts" t) @@ -974,6 +976,10 @@ See also the variable `org-reverse-note-order'." (org-datetree-find-date-create reference-date) (setq reversed nil) (setq org-goto-start-pos (point))) + ((consp heading) + (setq org-goto-start-pos (org-find-entry-with-id (cdr heading))) + (when (not org-goto-start-pos) + (error "Target headline with ID '%s' not found" (cdr heading)))) ((and (stringp heading) (string-match "\\S-" heading)) (goto-char (point-min)) (if (re-search-forward [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] 2010-05-15 6:42 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-05-18 17:39 ` Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-27 9:43 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-06-22 12:54 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Pohlack @ 2010-05-27 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 506 bytes --] [resending to get into the patch tracker] Hi, On 15.05.2010 08:42, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On May 14, 2010, at 5:42 AM, Samuel Wales wrote: >> On 2010-05-13, Martin Pohlack<mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> wrote: >>> Is there interest to define remember targets via paths or via ID? >> >> ID would be useful, I think. > > ID certainly - path could be useful to avoid ambiguities. Please find attached a first version of a patch adding support for IDs as remember targets. Feedback welcome. Cheers, Martin [-- Attachment #2: org-remember-id.diff --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 2252 bytes --] This patch adds support for specifying the ID of a target headline. Open issues: * Using a cons cell seems a bit ugly. A string would be fine too but this is already used by the headline itself in the choice element. * The visual appearance of the ID choice is suboptimal. Is there any way to hide the const visually? * The comments in the remember buffer seems to be setup wrong, where must I hook in to support IDs there? diff --git a/home/mpohlack/src/org-mode/lisp/org-remember.el b/org-remember.el index 59e015f..a0dbac4 100644 --- a/home/mpohlack/src/org-mode/lisp/org-remember.el +++ b/org-remember.el @@ -108,7 +108,8 @@ An optional fifth element can specify the headline in that file that should be offered first when the user is asked to file the entry. The default headline is given in the variable `org-remember-default-headline'. When this element is `top' or `bottom', the note will be placed as a level-1 -entry at the beginning or end of the file, respectively. +entry at the beginning or end of the file, respectively. You can also specify +the `ID' of a target headline. An optional sixth element specifies the contexts in which the template will be offered to the user. This element can be a list of major modes @@ -195,7 +196,8 @@ calendar | %:type %:date" (const :tag "Use `org-remember-default-headline'" nil) (const :tag "At beginning of file" top) (const :tag "At end of file" bottom) - (const :tag "In a date tree" date-tree)) + (const :tag "In a date tree" date-tree) + (cons :tag "ID" (const :tag "" ID) (string :tag "ID"))) (choice :tag "Context" (const :tag "Use in all contexts" nil) (const :tag "Use in all contexts" t) @@ -974,6 +976,10 @@ See also the variable `org-reverse-note-order'." (org-datetree-find-date-create reference-date) (setq reversed nil) (setq org-goto-start-pos (point))) + ((consp heading) + (setq org-goto-start-pos (org-find-entry-with-id (cdr heading))) + (when (not org-goto-start-pos) + (error "Target headline with ID '%s' not found" (cdr heading)))) ((and (stringp heading) (string-match "\\S-" heading)) (goto-char (point-min)) (if (re-search-forward [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] 2010-05-27 9:43 ` Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] Martin Pohlack @ 2010-06-22 12:54 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-06-22 13:38 ` Martin Pohlack 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-06-22 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Pohlack; +Cc: org-mode Hi Martin, I am rejecting this patch, but only because because I think this issue is taken care of in org-capture.el Let me know if you do not agree. Cheers, and thanks for your contribution! - Carsten On May 27, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Martin Pohlack wrote: > [resending to get into the patch tracker] > > Hi, > > On 15.05.2010 08:42, Carsten Dominik wrote: >> On May 14, 2010, at 5:42 AM, Samuel Wales wrote: >>> On 2010-05-13, Martin Pohlack<mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> wrote: >>>> Is there interest to define remember targets via paths or via ID? >>> >>> ID would be useful, I think. >> >> ID certainly - path could be useful to avoid ambiguities. > > Please find attached a first version of a patch adding support for IDs > as remember targets. > > Feedback welcome. > > Cheers, > Martin > <org-remember-id.diff> - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] 2010-06-22 12:54 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2010-06-22 13:38 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-06-22 13:43 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-06-22 13:44 ` Martin Pohlack 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Pohlack @ 2010-06-22 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode On 22.06.2010 14:54, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I am rejecting this patch, but only because because I think this issue > is taken care of in org-capture.el Let me know if you do not agree. The documentation for outline path looks promising. Even header paths are supported -- nice! Is there documentation for migrating from org-remember or will there be once org-capture shows up in the manual? Cheers, Martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] 2010-06-22 13:38 ` Martin Pohlack @ 2010-06-22 13:43 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-06-22 13:44 ` Martin Pohlack 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-06-22 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Pohlack; +Cc: org-mode On Jun 22, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Martin Pohlack wrote: > On 22.06.2010 14:54, Carsten Dominik wrote: >> Hi Martin, >> >> I am rejecting this patch, but only because because I think this >> issue >> is taken care of in org-capture.el Let me know if you do not agree. > > The documentation for outline path looks promising. Even header paths > are supported -- nice! > > Is there documentation for migrating from org-remember or will there > be > once org-capture shows up in the manual? Basically do M-x org-capture-import-remember-templates then customize org-capture-templates to check and modify the setup, and then use org-capture from now on to remember stuff. Most of the documentation is (as I said in my mail) currently in the docstrings of the command org-capture and of the variable org-capture- templates. Cheers - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Question: org-remember and level>1 target headline [resent] 2010-06-22 13:38 ` Martin Pohlack 2010-06-22 13:43 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2010-06-22 13:44 ` Martin Pohlack 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Pohlack @ 2010-06-22 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode On 22.06.2010 15:38, Martin Pohlack wrote: > Is there documentation for migrating from org-remember or will there be > once org-capture shows up in the manual? Never mind the question, I just saw the exhaustive other mail describing org-remember :-). Cheers, Martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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