From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thad Floryan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:31:55 -0700 Organization: ThadLABS Message-ID: <4C180D6B.9020508@thadlabs.com> References: <089883ee-0a63-4cb4-a0ec-d2fe4e71cc03@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <87wruco5yq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87wrubfd8p.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <848w6ndwn0.fsf@cs.bham.ac.uk> <87d3vx5cku.fsf@gmail.com> <87bpbcrdk5.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <4C17FE36.30102@thadlabs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291952121 29486 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 03:35:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 03:35:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 04:35:18 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQtlD-0007T8-8S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 04:35:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56471 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQtki-0001GV-Oy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 22:34:36 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!news2.euro.net!newsfeed.kpn.net!pfeed09.wxs.nl!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp Original-Lines: 33 Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="mgiT50g3FuRMqjBcrVYhZg"; logging-data="6057"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+dI3Iujw5W3v+tm0+zSpJVKEhA61pvUJQ=" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:8KtA4k96t07RrrP1Y2V8IWRRe0M= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178982 comp.emacs:100062 comp.lang.lisp:289230 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:23:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77279 Archived-At: On 6/15/2010 3:45 PM, Xah Lee wrote: > On Jun 15, 3:27 pm, Thad Floryan wrote: >> On 6/15/2010 1:42 AM, Uday S Reddy wrote: >> >>> On 6/15/2010 7:54 AM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: >>>> Well, C-f C-n is all you need. I mean, keep C-f pressed until the >>>> cursor reaches the column you want, you don't even need to count >>>> 76. And keep C-n pressed until the cursor reaches the line you want. >>> Except that pressing control-key for that long with your pinky is a >>> health risk! >>> [...] >> That's why remapping the [Caps Lock] to be a [Ctrl] is very useful. >> > > swapping Caps Lock with Ctrl is not good. > > • Why You Should Not Swap Caps Lock With Control > http://xahlee.org/emacs/swap_CapsLock_Ctrl.html > [...] Your opinion which neither I nor 100,000s of others share -- you stand alone. A [Ctrl] to the left of [A] is natural and what I've been using since the mid-1960s with absolutely NO problems or RSI whatsoever beginning with a TTY ASR33 and continuing with a Datapoint 3300, DEC VT100, Datamedia DT80 and others along the way to today. Mapping and using the [Caps Lock] as a [Ctrl] to the immediate left of [A] is no different than the ["] to the immediate right of [;] re: pinkies. The (dumb) PC standard of a [Ctrl] key at the lower-left of a keyboard is ridiculous and WILL cause pinky problems if one uses Emacs as an editor and bash as a shell.