From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: grischka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:26:56 +0200 Message-ID: <4C13FBA0.3000109@gmx.de> References: "83mxv0je2b.fsf@gnu.org" <4C13F491.9070100@gmx.de> <83d3vwj73q.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276379129 18640 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2010 21:45:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 23:45:28 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONYW7-0007Tn-0F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:45:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55196 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONYW6-0002n8-EL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:45:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49587 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONYEJ-0006ZC-KB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONYEI-0001iR-Q4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:58225) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONYEI-0001iD-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Jun 2010 21:27:00 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (EHLO [10.62.9.76]) [82.113.106.188] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 12 Jun 2010 23:27:00 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18588216 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18F2WwA04IF/e0W1J3HPlNbu2DozYTPh60q3ItNPI P0119hcftE3EeH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <83d3vwj73q.fsf@gnu.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125863 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:56:49 +0200 >> From: grischka >> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > If cursor motion is visual by default, one cannot even mark text >> > by holding Shift and moving point with the arrow keys. >> >> That is not true of course. You'd do it just the same as when >> you select text with the mouse. > > Mouse selection is also logical-order. So yes, it's ``the same'', but > not in the way you seem to think. Come on, don't be silly. --- grischka