From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Window configurations Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:45:40 +0200 Message-ID: <4BED37E4.2020005@gmx.at> References: 4BE900E7.3090402@gmx.at <4BE96186.7060504@gmx.de> <4BEA74B7.2070609@gmx.at> <4BEA8D2D.4090109@gmx.de> <4BEAA73F.4060608@gmx.at> <4BEAF487.1070605@gmx.de> <4BEBD2E3.8020200@gmx.at> <4BEBE52D.5080102@gmx.de> <4BEC0458.8050600@gmx.at> <4BEC3321.8010208@gmx.de> <4BECF494.8060702@gmx.at> <4BED291E.6020601@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273837558 14846 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2010 11:45:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 11:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: grischka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 14 13:45:56 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCtL2-0002W2-7K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 13:45:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44184 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OCtL1-0001hN-IB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 07:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55981 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OCtKt-0001fC-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 07:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCtKr-0004Qj-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 07:45:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:41899) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCtKr-0004QY-3E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 07:45:45 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 May 2010 11:45:42 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-45-110.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.45.110]) [62.47.45.110] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 14 May 2010 13:45:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18XUt1OfZUX1tfSDgENw1tqdpDFSomaz0YMfAaUST dZqpKkuktfY7tR User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <4BED291E.6020601@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124766 Archived-At: > If is no necessary to save windows. You'd just use the same configuration > to show the same buffers, i.e. throw them at "display-buffer" which calls > into your window manager which will create windows in the same place as > before > by definition, because to do this is the whole point of it: To make sure > that same (class of) content is presented to the user in the same trusty > topological position always. `display-buffer' is completely untrustworthy in this regard. The trustworthy primitives to do what you mean are `split-window' and `set-window-buffer'. > > The question is what the _standard_ semantics are when a window > ceases to > > be topmost and we have to move it somewhere else on the stack. > > The standard semantics for "ceasing to be topmost" on a stack are > "pushed down" > and "popped off". Precisely that's why a stack is probably not sufficient for our purpose. martin