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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: grischka <grishka@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Window configurations
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:53:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BEC0458.8050600@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BEBE52D.5080102@gmx.de>

 > I remember that differently.  With ECB you can really choose from layouts
 > visually and even create new ones with a sort of interactive layout editor.
 > It is true that it stored the layouts as procedural sequences internally,
 > but that is just an implementation detail.

I was talking about practical issues, i.e., implementation.

 > Aside from that it is really trivial to specify any reasonably complex
 > layouts as simple lisp structure, with sizes in percent, similar to say
 > framesets in html:
 >
 > (setq my-layout '(

And we'd get this structure from `window-tree', I suppose?  Things like
that have been proposed and written a number of times already.

 > That simple thing would be a pretty detailed layout already suited for
 > almost all purposes (except GUD perhaps).  More precisely, a layout
 > _configuration_, which means that the elements (windows) are shown only
 > when needed.
 >
 > Now you'd have a function that processes the tree to remove the unshown
 > components, resizes the remaining components proportionally and then put
 > it on screen in one go using good old split-window and then shows the
 > buffers

That's what XEmacs does IIUC ...

 > on top of each window's buffer stack.

... just that it has no such stack.

 > For that of course you need a second set of preferences, that is what
 > buffer show in what pane:  For example,  *messages*, *compilation*,
 > *completion*, etc.  can be assigned to "tool-window", *speedbar* to
 > sidebar-1, *help* on "top-1", files and such to "edit-area", and so on ...

That's what ECB's layouts are supposed to accomplish.  But I still don't
know how we want to use a window's buffer stack.  It's probably trivial
when the only operation popping the stack also kills that buffer.
However, if the buffer remains alive where put it on the stack?  The
only reasonable answer is burying it.  But usually that buffer is the
one a user most likely wants to see first when unshowing another buffer
in that window.

martin



  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-13 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-11 13:54 Window configurations grischka
2010-05-12  9:28 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-12 11:12   ` grischka
2010-05-12 13:03     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-12 18:33       ` grischka
2010-05-13 10:22         ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 11:40           ` grischka
2010-05-13 13:53             ` martin rudalics [this message]
2010-05-13 17:13               ` grischka
2010-05-13 22:57                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14  6:58                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-14 10:42                   ` grischka
2010-05-14 11:45                     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-14 13:32                       ` grischka
2010-05-13 22:54             ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14 11:12               ` grischka
2010-05-14 11:45                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-16 22:49               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-17  9:06                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-17 22:48                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-13 22:48   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14  7:00     ` martin rudalics
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-06 11:18 grischka
2010-05-05 13:31 grischka
2010-05-05 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05 19:47   ` grischka
2010-05-05 20:07 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-01 16:52 Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-05  8:50 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 12:44   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:34     ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 18:03       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 22:09         ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11  5:45           ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  8:16             ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 10:52               ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 17:28                 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-21  8:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 15:45                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 16:53                       ` Drew Adams
2010-04-23 18:02                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 18:28                           ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24  9:17                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 14:41                               ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24 18:49                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 19:24                                   ` Drew Adams
2010-04-25  5:36                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-25  9:15                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-04-25 18:33                                         ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Juri Linkov
2010-04-26 16:16                                           ` Window configurations martin rudalics
2010-04-27  8:54                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 12:54                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-04-27 18:03                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-28  7:12                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-04-28  8:27                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 19:55                                             ` Davis Herring
2010-04-28  7:12                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-04-28 14:50                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-28  8:35                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-28 14:15                                                 ` Davis Herring
2010-05-07 18:14                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-30  3:19                                           ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Ken Hori
2010-04-30 20:33                                             ` Window configurations Stefan Monnier
2010-05-02 20:31                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 23:34                                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-03  0:50                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-03  0:57                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03  2:50                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-04 16:09                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05  6:41                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 13:22                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-05 14:35                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 21:59                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 20:28                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03  3:31                                               ` Ken Hori
2010-05-04 16:12                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05  9:19                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:05                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-06  8:21                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 20:47                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-10 19:16                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-11  7:01                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-11 16:45                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-12  9:29                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 22:46                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14  6:59                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-16 22:51                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-17  9:06                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-17 22:54                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-18 12:07                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 17:28                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 18:39                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-31 19:12                                                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-31 20:23                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01  9:24                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 20:19                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01  3:13                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01  9:25                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 12:58                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01  9:24                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 13:08                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 14:02                                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-01 16:04                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:20                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-02 12:59                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 14:08                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03  8:55                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:54                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:46                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03  8:55                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:55                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-14 17:05                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-14 21:54                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-15  7:08                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-06-15 21:31                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-16 17:25                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-06-16 20:51                                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17  7:58                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17  8:42                                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 10:20                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17 20:38                                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 22:55                                                                                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-18  6:34                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-06-18  8:28                                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-18  9:04                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19  8:50                                                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 13:47                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19 14:12                                                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 18:56                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:51                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:49                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03  8:57                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 14:22                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03 15:42                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 13:11                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-04 14:07                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:59                                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 10:36                                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-06-04 14:06                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:54                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04  8:11                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:57                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:47                                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 13:21                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:31                                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03 18:52                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04  8:11                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 17:09                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:49                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 21:58                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:30                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 10:38                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07  1:12                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 13:40                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07 15:36                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 17:38                                                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-08 13:06                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-08 20:19                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 13:20                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-11 13:52                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 17:12                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:19                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06  8:22                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 13:04                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06 14:59                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 16:17                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-08  3:09                                                     ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-08 13:54                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-08 15:42                                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 14:01                                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-09 14:21                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 15:01                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29  9:01                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29  9:23                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-29 10:01                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 10:37                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 12:16                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 20:14                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 20:01                                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-30  6:35                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-30  8:12                                                 ` Juri Linkov

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