From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch. Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:53:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4BC406C1.30404@swipnet.se> References: <30298845.656931270806476838.JavaMail.www@wwinf4631> <4BBF0C6C.7000909@swipnet.se> <87ljcwaxfv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4BC016DA.60400@swipnet.se> <87d3y63gzt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4BC1EAB2.6080900@harpegolden.net> <4BC215A5.6010809@swipnet.se> <87y6gsfadn.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271138015 29648 80.91.229.12 (13 Apr 2010 05:53:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 05:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David De La Harpe Golden , Stefan Monnier , "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 13 07:53:28 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1Z3u-000124-Aw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:53:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37113 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1Z3t-0004bE-RN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O1Z3i-0004ZA-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:53:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39134 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1Z3g-0004Xp-92 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1Z3e-0006In-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:53:12 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-h21.telenor.se ([195.54.99.196]:35080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1Z3e-0006I1-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:53:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-h21.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BD3EB034 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:53:08 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.110] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au5CAJujw0tV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACHZZNhDAEBAQE1LbpohQwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,195,1270418400"; d="scan'208";a="506974905" Original-Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 13 Apr 2010 07:53:06 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AA2E7FA01A; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:53:05 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <87y6gsfadn.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123560 Archived-At: Juri Linkov skrev 2010-04-13 01.47: >>> - no text. >> >> This is just a case of "nobody needed that yet". It isn't hard to add. > > Gedit has text under tool-bar icons. Some icons are not self-evident, > so text helps to understand what they do. An option for icon/text/icon+text > would be nice for the Emacs tool-bar. > For the GUI-part it is just a matter of not turning off text, like we do now. But there are no short good strings available, the big part is adding those strings to all available tool bar items. The help text or even the name is frequently too long. Jan D.