From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch. Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:56:53 +0200 Message-ID: <4BC1AAF5.1010700@swipnet.se> References: <30298845.656931270806476838.JavaMail.www@wwinf4631> <4BBF0C6C.7000909@swipnet.se> <4BC011F5.9010505@swipnet.se> <4BC0A2EC.3060807@swipnet.se> <50923.130.55.132.80.1270917734.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <4BC0B146.5020802@swipnet.se> <51053.130.55.132.80.1270919810.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <4BC0BB52.7040404@swipnet.se> <4BC0C6F3.6060100@harpegolden.net> <4BC0CE04.2090709@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270983814 10677 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2010 11:03:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David De La Harpe Golden , "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 11 13:03:32 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0uws-0001s4-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:03:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49489 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0uwr-0007aJ-JF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O0uqZ-00050j-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 06:56:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36999 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0uqY-000501-0m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 06:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0uqV-0002CL-Ij for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 06:56:57 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-h11.telenor.se ([62.127.194.4]:37429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0uqV-0002C3-D1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 06:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFE6C287 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:56:55 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.110] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Amk2ANpHwUtV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACHZJNgDAEBAQE1LbYGhQwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,184,1270418400"; d="scan'208";a="62048547" Original-Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2010 12:56:54 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6EE7FA01A; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:56:53 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123472 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier skrev: > Apparently the Gnome/Gtk guys aren't out to make life of application > writers easier. They're instead dedicated to making things easy/uniform > for the end user, which imposes severe constraints on the applications, > especially ones like Emacs which haven't been designed around Gtk's ideas. > They do wan't Gtk+/Gnome applications to behave and look uniform, I think that is a good thing for a desktop environment. On the other hand, the GUI design in Emacs is awkward at best and doesn't fit well with *any* toolkit out there. Jan D.