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From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch.
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:06:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC0A223.1070607@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BC011F5.9010505@swipnet.se>

Jan Djärv wrote:


> Are there any concrete examples of other uses?  I still think window 
> configurations are the "natural" thing, as this is how tabs are used in 
> web browsers, other editors, IDE:s and so on.  That doesn't mean that 
> tabs must be exclusively about window configurations.

I'm still not sure about this.   At least the Gtk+ notebook model still 
suggests to me that the most natural thing to put in some toplevel 
outermost tabs for gtk purposes might be the emacs frames themselves.

I also still like my idea of tabs being a sort of third "depth" axis 
emacs windows are split on. Then such (interior*) tabs would be /an 
aspect of/ window configuration, not something that switches /between/ 
window configurations.

e.g. changing frame from window configuration
A to window configuration B involve rearranging the horizontal, 
vertical, and tab type window splits:

A:                              B:

  ________________________        ________________________
|              |         |      |                        |
|              |         |      |______   _______________|
|______________|         |      |__/__/__/__/____________|
|              |         |      |      |        |        |
|___   ________|         |      |   ___|________|________|
|__/__/__/_____|_________|      |__/__/__________________|


A: horizontally-split into 2 then LHS vertically-split into 2. Lower 
left then "tab-split" into 3 tabs.

B: vertically-split into 2.  Upper then "tab-split" into 4 tabs.  Lower 
tab-split into 2 tabs.  First tab then vertically-split into 3.

I suppose it doesn't preclude the outermost set of tabs switching 
between window configurations. Or frames. Or even outer tabs containing 
frames, second level switching window configurations of frames, and 
further interior tabs being split-window type. Sigh.

Anyway, talk is cheap - you have working code and I still don't, despite 
previously mentioning this months ago now, I haven't really been working 
on it.

>  The 
> implementation can easily be made to do tabs also for "other" lisp-based 
> uses.  

I'd also point out again there's a completely different sort of tab to 
consider - an emacs widget that is a tab notebook, that embeds _in_ a 
buffer like other emacs widgets for customisation.

That's little to do with your sort of tabs apart from my concern there's 
some possibility some non-window-configuration-switching use cases some 
people might be envisaging for tabs might be better served by a 
tabbed/notebook presentation composite emacs widget.







  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-10 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-09  9:47 Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch A. Soare
2010-04-09 11:15 ` Jan D.
2010-04-10  1:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10  1:36     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  6:12       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  1:16         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-11 12:50           ` Tobias C. Rittweiler
2010-04-11 15:40             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 15:28           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 16:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 18:32               ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 23:47                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  3:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  5:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13 13:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 23:34                         ` Header windows (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch.) Juri Linkov
2010-04-14  5:03                         ` Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 14:30                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  6:53                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13 12:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  5:53                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 12:30                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 20:54                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-21 16:58                       ` Text in Gtk tool bar. (Was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch.) Jan Djärv
2010-04-23  8:35                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23  9:33                           ` Jan D.
2010-04-23 16:46                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 17:47                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 18:09             ` Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Drew Adams
2010-04-12 23:45             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  2:42               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13  6:29                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 17:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-13 18:15                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 18:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-10  1:47     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10  2:19       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  6:15       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10  9:14         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10  9:46           ` joakim
2010-04-10 10:18             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10 11:01               ` joakim
2010-04-10 12:38               ` Štěpán Němec
2010-04-10 14:58               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 10:58             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 12:09               ` joakim
2010-04-11  1:18             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10 10:52           ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10  5:51     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 15:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 15:33         ` Chong Yidong
2010-04-10 18:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 16:10         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 16:40           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 17:06             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 16:42           ` Davis Herring
2010-04-10 17:11             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:16               ` Davis Herring
2010-04-10 17:54                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 18:44                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 19:14                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 19:51                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 21:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 10:56                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 15:09                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 19:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 19:07             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 19:56               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-12 16:14         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 19:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-12 20:22             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 21:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 15:08         ` René Kyllingstad
2010-04-10 16:06       ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2010-04-11 12:11       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-11 18:09         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-12 23:49           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  2:58             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-13  4:11               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13 16:15                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-14 10:30                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-13 19:53 grischka
2010-04-10 17:33 A. Soare
2010-04-09 13:33 A. Soare
2010-04-01 16:52 Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-01 17:45 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 18:03   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:18     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  7:10       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:51   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  6:49     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:21       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  2:06   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-02  7:00     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:59   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02 15:10     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 16:55       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-05  8:50       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 12:44         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:34           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 18:03             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 22:09               ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11  5:45                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  8:16                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 10:52                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 17:28                       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 18:33                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-21  8:55                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21  9:46                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-21 15:43                             ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]                               ` <jwv633k4rn2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-22  8:16                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 15:08                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-23  8:33                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 13:54                           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-21 15:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 16:04                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-22  8:14                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 16:20                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-24 18:45                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 16:53                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-23 18:02                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 18:28                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24  9:17                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 14:41                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24 18:49                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 19:24                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-25  5:36                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-25  9:15                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-04-10 19:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-02 16:19     ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02 18:31       ` Daniel Colascione
2010-04-02 20:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-03  6:29         ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-03  9:07           ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  7:25   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-04 11:01     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-02 12:19   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-01 13:07 Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 13:24 ` Leo
2010-04-01 18:02 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:13   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-09 23:27     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-09 23:54       ` Drew Adams
2010-04-10  0:17         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  2:56       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-11  1:06         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 18:50 ` Chong Yidong
2010-04-01 20:08   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:09   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 21:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-09  7:23 ` alin.s
2010-04-09  9:34   ` Jan D.

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