From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:25:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4BB59BE1.1030106@swipnet.se> References: <4BB4CF6B.2000007@alice.it> <87wrwq4a63.fsf@siart.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270193201 3677 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2010 07:26:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uwe Siart Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 02 09:26:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxbH2-0007Vs-SR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:26:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46918 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NxbH1-0004dH-Up for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:26:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NxbFx-0004Ue-S8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:25:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51210 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NxbFu-0004UW-1B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:25:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxbFr-00043W-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:25:25 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se ([195.54.99.197]:50675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxbFr-00043P-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C42EA38C for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:25:21 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.110] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnQ5AOc4tUtV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACHY5NYDAEBAQE1LbN5hQEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,352,1267398000"; d="scan'208";a="58468002" Original-Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 02 Apr 2010 09:25:21 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CCD7FA01A; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:25:21 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) In-Reply-To: <87wrwq4a63.fsf@siart.de> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123051 Archived-At: Uwe Siart skrev: > Angelo Graziosi writes: > >> Perhaps we need something like 'M-x tabs-mode' (by default possibly! >> :-)) > > Please don't enable such stuff by default. The user should be able to > decide by himself how many frames/windows/(tabs) he would like to open. > > Also IMO tabs are not that useful as many (windows) users think because > there's only one tab visible at a time. Emacs' concept of frames and > windows (and iswitchb-mode) is much better here. > It depends. Making many frames is no good if you don't have much screen space and want to view a large portion of your file. Many windows also reduces the amount of text you can view at once. Tabs have a role. Consider the use case of viewing 3 or 4 log files with very long lines at once. I currently do that by making Emacs fullscreen and switch buffers. Having tabs for this would be a small improvement, as the tabs give the file name and makes for faster switching. But I suspect long time Emacs users have developed habits that makes tabs less desirable. An iswitcht-mode for tabs would probably be a good idea though. Jan D.