From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX. Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:45:17 +0000 Message-ID: <4B9D2EBD.9040701@harpegolden.net> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87zl2cmufp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <224s67-o31.ln1@news.eternal-september.org> <87634zvuki.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268592340 23718 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2010 18:45:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:45:40 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 14 19:45:33 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nqsod-0004zI-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:45:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33834 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nqsod-00041T-B1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NqsoY-000411-8E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:45:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50589 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NqsoW-0003zx-22 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:45:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqsoU-00042V-J7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:45:23 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:35170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqsoU-000410-AJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:45:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [87.198.47.234] (87-198-47-234.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.47.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979019030 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:45:19 +0000 (GMT) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) In-Reply-To: <87634zvuki.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121959 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > But the scrollbar is on the left for a reason: _if_ you use the mouse > for editing, you'll use it more often than not on the left (until Eli's > work gets merged) Of course if you use a mouse in the modern era, chances are you'll have a scroll wheel on the mouse, and be more perturbed by emacs' treatment of the region and point when you scroll than the scrollbar's position. But that's a whole other can of worms. I have the scrollbar on my screen (on the right, visible but nicely out of the way) primarily as a visual indicator of position in file, not to manipulate it much as such. I also tend to use emacs on modern landscape displays with two windows open side-by-side, so it's not all that far away on the right.