From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:39:33 +0100 Message-ID: <4B683925.2000003@gmx.at> References: <83mxzviio5.fsf@gnu.org> <4B647AE5.5090001@gmx.at> <83ljffif09.fsf@gnu.org> <4B648C6E.8080905@gmx.at> <83eil7i84h.fsf@gnu.org> <4B654F24.5020603@gmx.at> <83aavui23z.fsf@gnu.org> <4B65E199.6070100@gmx.at> <4B67DD70.5070705@gmx.at> <20100202132317.GA31746@tomas> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265121593 1671 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2010 14:39:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 02 15:39:48 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcJut-0000lY-8I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:39:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57805 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcJus-0002lh-NQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NcJuo-0002lX-Ia for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:39:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40383 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcJun-0002lJ-87 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:39:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcJul-0001p6-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:39:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:48576) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcJuj-0001oR-MG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:39:38 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Feb 2010 14:39:35 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-36-244.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.36.244]) [62.47.36.244] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 02 Feb 2010 15:39:35 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+4qUJ/cjS46X7fZU96J86rGN5LGi7oR4I0j/M3zB qOm4H9FmnC0LKU User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <20100202132317.GA31746@tomas> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67000000000000004 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120822 Archived-At: >> With L2R and R2L lines in one and the same buffer we have to decide >> which line type is given preference whenever shrinking a window >> truncates at least one L2R and at least one R2L line. > > (AFAIU) not if you follow Eli's approach of "moving from center" (i.e. > anchor R2L lines right and L2R lines left (which looks as the most > compelling approach to me [1]). That would be "inverted scrolling" in > Stefan's classification in this thread. Indeed. Eli's approach handles this. > It seems to me that you'd prefer to keep R2L and L2R texts rigidly tied > (column-wise), if i understand you correctly (i.e. Stefan's "rigid > scrolling"). I don't prefer that. But what you say here is the correct conclusion from what I wrote. > [1] Disclaimer: I do follow those bidi discussions, but my headd spins > so fast that I don't think my judgements are very valid at the moment. They are valid. My head spins faster than yours. martin