From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3643: 23.1.90.1; menu, toolbars vs. constant size Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:30:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4B488501.3070002@swipnet.se> References: <4B45C336.6050605@swipnet.se> <87skafykq3.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , 3643@debbugs.gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263044959 32511 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2010 13:49:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3643@debbugs.gnu.org To: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 14:49:11 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTbgk-0003Wu-NH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:49:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48582 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTbgk-0002zr-Vr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:49:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTbgf-0002yI-OR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTbgb-0002v2-0v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39486 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTbga-0002uu-Ul for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:49:00 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43016) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTbga-00081e-9t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:49:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTbPC-0007rX-Ag; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:31:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , 3643@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3643 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3643.126304385030210 (code B ref 3643); Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2010 13:30:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTbOz-0007rD-HO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:30:49 -0500 Original-Received: from proxy1.bredband.net ([195.54.101.71]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTbOx-0007r8-NQ for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:30:48 -0500 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C0023C0FA6 for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:30:42 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvtFAGsTSEtV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACBRIZukyABAQEBN7hShC8Egxk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,247,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="24935039" Original-Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2010 14:30:42 +0100 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697917FA01A; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:30:41 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) In-Reply-To: <87skafykq3.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:31:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34109 Archived-At: jidanni@jidanni.org skrev: > !.Xresources > Emacs.toolBar: 0 > Emacs.menuBar: 0 > and emacs -q it turns out work... unless one wants to use a different > font! Then one needs -mm. > Is there any way to put the -mm into .emacs? or does one need a shell wrapper? The documentation for emacs and elisp is in info. It can be confusing that some parts are in the Emacs node and some in the Elisp node. This particular documentation is in the Elisp node: In Emacs: C-h i m elisp s maximized I.e. the frame parameter fullscreen can have the value maximized. > emacs-version "23.1.91.1" > Anyway, my point still remains, the user's first encounter with > $ emacs # just won't fit on many people's screens. > At least under icewm. I don't know any other program that acts like that > right out of the box. That is indeed a bad thing to do. I added some code to address that. Note that any tool bars put there by the window manager must be handeled by the window manager. For example, compiz will never let me create a window so high it covers the menu/toolbars added by Gnome-panel. Jan D.