From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: grischka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Surely 'bzr update' shouldn't be this slow? Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:49:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4B47702A.7030705@gmx.de> References: <4B466E45.7060706@gmx.de> <87hbqxjg03.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262973001 30250 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2010 17:50:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 18:49:54 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTIy8-0000zj-Us for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:49:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34864 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTIy9-0004u1-If for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:49:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTIy0-0004t5-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTIxv-0004s8-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:49:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55975 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTIxv-0004s5-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:49:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:51283) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTIxu-0003ND-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:49:38 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Jan 2010 17:49:34 -0000 Original-Received: from 1Cust83.tnt8.ber2.deu.da.uu.net (EHLO [149.225.152.83]) [149.225.152.83] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 08 Jan 2010 18:49:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18588216 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19eAcsyZUBeHdnKKMsyQZuQCkTQ0SfEJPj/lrtx7o VhwpQr8sUCuexZ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <87hbqxjg03.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119715 Archived-At: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > grischka writes: > > > > No, it has to do a lot more than that. > > > > Has to? Why? > > Because the data structures are designed that way. > > But really, your question is either "why isn't bzr git?", in which > case the answer is "because it's not." We could ask them but I don't think that the bzr people would claim that the shortcomings in question are a necessary consequence from the top level design, that is from "being bzr" after all. Frankly, that's somehow just as unlikely as that emacs cannot have a better UI unless it wanted to be eclipse. > Or it's "why isn't Emacs using git?", in which case the answer is > "because Emacs is a means to the end of promoting free software, and > in RMS's judgment, Emacs using bzr is beneficial to that end." It is completely okay not to use git, however it is completely not okay to ignore existing ideas and designs, the less if they are available by the same principles that emacs is trying to promote. --- grischka