From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3643: 23.1.90.1; menu, toolbars vs. constant size Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:14:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4B44708B.9090304@swipnet.se> References: <87r5q5eefg.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , 3643@debbugs.gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262776747 9577 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2010 11:19:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:19:07 +0000 (UTC) To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 3643@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 06 12:18:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NSTul-0004pZ-I4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:14:25 -0500 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1BA021C9063 for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:14:21 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An5WAEb/Q0tV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACBRJoOAQEBATe2OoQwBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,229,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="23714137" Original-Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2010 12:14:21 +0100 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 712517FA07B; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:14:20 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 In-Reply-To: <87r5q5eefg.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:15:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:33991 Archived-At: jidanni@jidanni.org skrev 2010-01-04 22.41: > In emacs -Q fiddle in the menus, clicking > etc. > > Notice how emacs cannot keep itself constant size, but the whole of > emacs grows and shrinks along with its tool and menu bars. > > Now contrast this with firefox, View-> [check/uncheck some tool etc. > bars] > > Notice how the whole of firefox stays the same size. Emacs is not firefox. Emacs tries to keep editable lines so of course size changes. Apparently Firefox does not, but that has no bearing on Emacs. The size of the toolbar/menubar may not be an integral number of text lines. Emacs tries to always show whole lines, Firefox does not. You may put wish list as severity on this bug, but please describe every possible combination Emacs can hav in this respect and how it should behave. This includes tiling window managers like XMonad, and running with no window manager at all. And how Emacs should behave w.r.t. resize in all scenarios. > > In emacs one must first click the "maximize" button in the upper right > corner for things to work out well, and such changes not to change > emacs's total size. > > For firefox, that one clicked "maximize" is remembered between sessions. > > For emacs I have to use the complicated > http://jidanni.org/comp/configuration/ just to get a full size window > without the bars at startup. > emacs.toolBar: 0 emacs.menuBar: 0 and start emacs with -fs is all it takes. Not very complicated. In the future, please use M-x report-emacs-bug. As different ports have different behaviour, we would like to know what you are running. Jan D.