From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Angelo Graziosi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Failure in building CVS Emacs [xsettings] and other Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:22:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4B0B0B42.3080807@alice.it> References: <4B028A84.30704@alice.it> <4B02AABC.9090502@swipnet.se> <4B02DF8C.3000906@alice.it> <4B02F5B1.3080401@swipnet.se> <4B0329F0.4040702@alice.it> <4B03AC85.4080009@swipnet.se> <4B0A5C52.40109@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259015056 29478 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2009 22:24:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs To: =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIERqw6Rydg==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 23 23:24:09 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NChKK-0007Yg-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:24:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43873 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NChKK-0007up-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NChKF-0007uj-BA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NChKE-0007uH-8k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51693 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NChKE-0007uD-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:02 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-out13.alice.it ([85.33.2.18]:1693) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NChKD-0007mL-Kk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:24:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fbcmmo06.fbc.local ([192.168.184.137]) by smtp-out13.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:56 +0100 Original-Received: from FBCMCL01B01.fbc.local ([192.168.69.82]) by fbcmmo06.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:11 +0100 Original-Received: from [87.3.35.119] ([87.3.35.119]) by FBCMCL01B01.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:23:11 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <4B0A5C52.40109@swipnet.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 22:23:12.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AEE7DE0:01CA6C8B] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117644 Archived-At: Jan Djärv ha scritto: > Jan Djärv skrev: >> Angelo Graziosi skrev: >>> If with that option I set Monospace, Regular, 10, the result is >>> *different* from what I see in Konsole or my previous build. And >>> after this, recalling 'Options | Set Default Font' shows always Sans, >>> Regular, 12, i.e. it does not reflect the new choice. >>> >>> >>> K910 >>> ==== >>> Similar results. Only >>> >>> $ xrdb -query | grep Xft >>> >>> is empty. >>> >>> It seems that these new features added to Emacs, after 20091114, make >>> its look a little bad. >>> > > I think the problem is that now Emacs takes fontconfig defaults into > account. That means that it uses hintslight (i.e. very little > hinting). You probably have set (or KDE sets) hintmedium or hintfull. > > When I run Kubuntu 9.10, I get hintslight on all apps, KDE and Emacs. I > have changed so Emacs defaults to hintmedium if XSETTINGS aren't found, > as is the case for KDE (unless xsettings-kde is installed). Now, the things are better, mainly on K910. Emacs uses Monospace Regular 12, which on K910 has the same look I got with Emacs-20091114 (using Monosp. Reg. 10, though). On K804, Emacs frame is half sized! It shows 22 lines instead of about 40, as usually. Thanks, Angelo.