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From: grischka <grishka@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org
Subject: Re: Case mapping of sharp s
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:25:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B05D3EE.2000101@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvskcai43z.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Actually I think there is something simply wrong with the simple
>> search, as it's much slower even for single chars (where bm doesn't
>> have any advantage) and additionally in some weird random fashion
>> it's again slower for backwards search, such as 14, 37, 66 ... 94
>> secs, where the bm takes 0.5 secs and simple forward constantly
>> ~3.7 secs, all for isearch'ing one character in a 100Mb file.
> 
> I can guess why it's much slower going backward: the simple search
> operates on chars rather than bytes.  The internal encoding we use
> (currently based on utf-8) is designed to be easy to parse going forward
> but not so easy going backward (IIRC our encoding is actually even a bit
> more painful in this case than pure utf-8).  BM on the other hand works
> on bytes, so there's no such slowdown.

Okay, it's utf-8 (aka multibyte I suppose) however I was using
the same buffer in both cases (just a different search string).
So whatever makes it more difficult to scan backwards the same
situation exists for bm too.  Also how can it happen that a C
function varies between 4 and 90 seconds for the same action.

> As for the general slowdown, it may also be due to having to parse the
> char (encoded in utf-8) and then look it up in the corresponding char table
> (a tree of arrays).

 From what I saw the simple_search() calls out to lisp for every
single buffer-byte whereas boyer_moore() just translates it
with a prefabricated C table.

However if simple_search just would prepare the first char of
the pattern in both lower and uppercase version readily for
comparison it could be as fast as bm I guess (for a pattern
length of less than 4 that is)

--- grischka

> 
> But maybe we're doing something silly somewhere.
> 
> 
>         Stefan
> 





  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-19 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-19 19:48 Case mapping of sharp s grischka
2009-11-19 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 22:43   ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20  2:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  8:03       ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20 14:14         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  3:41     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20  4:20       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  7:13         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  0:02           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-21 12:39             ` David Kastrup
2009-11-21 17:40               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 19:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  2:58                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22  4:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  8:27                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23  1:30                 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-21 22:52               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20  8:10     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-20 11:46       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 14:43         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21  4:33           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-19 23:25   ` grischka [this message]
2009-11-20  2:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  3:08       ` grischka
2009-11-21  8:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21  9:33           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 11:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 15:33           ` grischka
2009-11-21 10:41         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21 11:58           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 17:01             ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-22 12:11               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-22 20:15                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24 12:26             ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-24 19:23               ` grischka
2009-11-25  2:13                 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-26 13:07                   ` grischka
2009-11-29 22:03                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30  1:22                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-30  1:28                     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30  1:36                       ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30  7:01                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-30 12:01                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 13:09                         ` martin rudalics
2009-11-30 21:57                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 22:34                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-01  0:02                           ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-15 14:29 Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-16 12:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-16 16:38   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-17  7:36     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 21:23       ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-16 19:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-17  7:43     ` martin rudalics
2009-11-17  7:49     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 18:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18  1:00         ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18  4:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18  5:33             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-18  6:26             ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18 14:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 19:05                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-19  1:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-19  1:57                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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