From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:03:06 +0800 Message-ID: <4B03E27A.20000@gnu.org> References: <20091118093716.GA1277@muc.de> <20091118101502.GB1277@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258545824 6221 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2009 12:03:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 18 13:03:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NAjG2-0001kz-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:03:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAjG1-0003zd-QN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAjFs-0003z8-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:03:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAjFm-0003vj-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:03:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44518 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAjFm-0003vf-2k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:03:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f194.google.com ([209.85.211.194]:61092) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAjFh-0001ud-Rw; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:03:13 -0500 Original-Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32so1488684ywh.14 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:03:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tMmlC+Vf7PrXn/2ES8CZ+YUP8DxxuTxITIG4uPyN3SI=; b=EmlxDpk5Sq2wuVHKebgK5uxYZ0+maYb5x+9kCm9FuDsBFB2ZrCsM5/fA7FITFa4Im0 xbwUio4Dab7py1PMWTSnz0tYspnzSnGogSuXpCXY+4kPXEptSrRBicY1zovEd74eatei 2/+bM3Th4JqRI6gpEETiR/uc/J8ZmFDYqL7gA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C76ZrfgjofcRNmZCtGrXF4d0IAhNfzPZ8/rR9BqECsUBC/eqBqx0stLJqnZc/nWZHf eVBFjlLeUrZNmtKE3fV2nfJHNUXkLfeM7c7IcL3OhaMM/2a8fuCHZXayKFQzZaWRyR3G LzIXXSKoZZTB4D9ykqvHtodgx/Ka26n4/tmKc= Original-Received: by 10.101.189.17 with SMTP id r17mr99609anp.46.1258545793314; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:03:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonrumney.net ([118.100.163.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm309019yxg.48.2009.11.18.04.03.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:03:11 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonrumney.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEEE219E; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:03:06 +0800 (MYT) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090706) In-Reply-To: <20091118101502.GB1277@muc.de> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117170 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I've tried M-x set-language-environment latin-1. The mode line of > my *scratch* looks like this: > If you DON'T do that, after starting emacs -Q, what does C-h L report? It should be initialised to the same as your terminal language environment, which is what you need when running in a tty. >> Do you use X emacs, emacs in a tty, etc.? If tty emacs, which type of >> terminal do you use? >> > > A Linux tty. > More specific please. Console? Serial? xterm? GNU screen?