From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 23.2 plans Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:27:33 +0100 Message-ID: <4B026C85.2090306@swipnet.se> References: <87ws21aaiz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4B01A4AD.4020302@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258450077 14420 80.91.229.12 (17 Nov 2009 09:27:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 17 10:27:50 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NAKLj-0007sJ-9O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:27:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57269 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAKLi-00036s-B8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:27:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAKLb-00035Y-BW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:27:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAKLX-00033G-VW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:27:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44702 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAKLX-00033B-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:27:35 -0500 Original-Received: from proxy3.bredband.net ([195.54.101.73]:37324) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAKLX-0005Ns-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:27:35 -0500 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1BA00F6C928 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:27:34 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArieAG77AUtV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACBS5dlgmMBAQEBN7ochDsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,757,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="4397468" Original-Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2009 10:27:34 +0100 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D337FA07B; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:27:33 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117077 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier skrev: >> The upside is that Emacs integrates better to the Gnome desktop and >> that we can control Xft-settings. After all, if a user changes >> hinting she probably wants it for all applications. As Emacs now uses >> the DPI value from Xsettings instead of from the X server, fonst look >> the same. This isn't the case now, Monospace-8 on Emacs and >> gnome-terminal look quite different. > > That's a very good change, yes. > >> The downside is that user might be surprised to see the size of their fonts >> change as the DPI value is now different. > > If it can fix the problem that the default font size is much too large > for all my screens (a 1600x1200 21" desktop, a 1400x1050 14" laptop, > and a 1024x600 10" netbook), then I'm all for it, and I know I wouldn't > be the only user to appreciate the change. See bug#4547 for example. > I will add some comments to that bug. It is confusing that DPI isn't really the physical DPI, but I think we should just adapt and move on. Can you try Emacs now and see if it fixes your problem? It would make a good verification test. Jan D.