From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: "Per Starbäck" <per@starback.se>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Completion keys and rectangles
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:34:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B01C564.1010001@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <912155b0911161158w73acdb93p4b28d2a3b260a8f2@mail.gmail.com>
Per Starbäck wrote:
> M-TAB is very often used by the window manager.
True, or at least M-<tab> is (what? See below), but that's typically an
easily reconfigured option in the window manager preferences (except on
windows). I move all common window manager meta+key operations to
super+key anyway (which after all has a stylised window printed on it
thanks to microsoft. Super isn't used by default emacs bindings as a
matter of policy)
> What do you think is the best solution to the window mangers vs.
> completion in emacs problem? Would it be better if
> key-description described M-TAB as ESC TAB or C-M-i if there is reason
> to think M-TAB won't work?
M-TAB pretty much /is/ emacs saying M-C-i
A "real tab key only" binding says "<tab>" instead of "TAB"
See manual Customization > Key Bindings > Named ASCII Chars
notes about TAB and C-i being the same thing.
I guess it may still not be obvious to modern users that therefore C-M-i
is a direct alternative to M-TAB though.
try:
C-h c then C-i :
"TAB runs the command indent-for-tab-command"
C-h c then tab key :
"TAB (translated from <tab>) runs the command indent-for-tab-command"
> Would it be good to have an alternative key for M-TAB?
I tend to view C-M-i (M- C-i) /as/ the memorable alternative to M-TAB.
Showing my age I guess, but this was once something "everyone knew" in
computing:
ASCII TAB = 9. 9 + 64 = 73. 73 = ASCII I
ASCII BS = 8. 8 + 64 = 72. 72 = ASCII H
ASCII ESC = 27. 27 + 64 = 91. 91 = ASCII [
So, ^I for TAB, ^H for backspace, ^[ for escape etc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-16 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-16 19:58 Completion keys and rectangles Per Starbäck
2009-11-16 21:29 ` Drew Adams
2009-11-16 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17 4:32 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-16 21:34 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2009-11-16 22:14 ` Per Starbäck
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