From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 23.2 plans Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:14:53 +0100 Message-ID: <4B01A4AD.4020302@swipnet.se> References: <87ws21aaiz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258398951 11666 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2009 19:15:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 16 20:15:44 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NA739-0003iN-HM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:15:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54223 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NA738-0007JF-Qm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:15:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NA72U-0006vK-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NA72P-0006rl-R4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34744 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NA72P-0006rf-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:57 -0500 Original-Received: from proxy1.bredband.net ([195.54.101.71]:56693) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NA72P-0007Ev-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:14:57 -0500 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C000F17AF3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:14:54 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak+7ABkzAUtV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACBTogBj12CYwEBAQE3umyEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,752,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="4201642" Original-Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2009 20:14:53 +0100 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A397FA07B; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:14:53 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) In-Reply-To: <87ws21aaiz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117042 Archived-At: Chong Yidong skrev: > Stefan and I plan to begin the Emacs 23.2 pretest in the beginning of > December. Accordingly, we will be imposing a freeze on new features > (i.e., anything that is not a bugfix) within the next few weeks. The > target for Emacs 23.2 is March next year; as usual, the actual release > will depend on how pretesting goes. > > If you are planning to make any significant changes to the tree, please > let us know ASAP (i.e. now), so that we can plan/comment accordingly. > I have completed the GConf/Xsetting code (after way to long time) now and would like to check it in. I don't know if it counts as a major change, but its implications might. Basically Emacs reads the system font name from GConf and uses that. It also reacts to changes to the system font (can be turned off with a defcustom). GConf support can be turned off in configure. Emacs also listens for font parameter changes made by the user and communicated with Xsettings. These are various Xft-related parameters (antialias, hinting, hintstyle, RGBA, DPI and lcdfilter) that are settable by the Gnome user settings program (I imagine KDE has something similar). The upside is that Emacs integrates better to the Gnome desktop and that we can control Xft-settings. After all, if a user changes hinting she probably wants it for all applications. As Emacs now uses the DPI value from Xsettings instead of from the X server, fonst look the same. This isn't the case now, Monospace-8 on Emacs and gnome-terminal look quite different. The downside is that user might be surprised to see the size of their fonts change as the DPI value is now different. What do you think? Jan D.