From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Scrollbar thumbs
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:47:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF5B2C6.6030201@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87aayy8f3f.fsf@telefonica.net>
Óscar Fuentes wrote:
> Just in case someone takes the above comment half-seriously, it is worth
> noting that the problem faced by emacs wrt GTK scrollbar would hinder
> other applications too. For instance, on some areas it is required to
> display very large datasets on a grid. There, it is not often clear how
> much rows there are on the dataset, nor exists the concept on n-th row,
> so it is not possible to have a precise 1-to-1 mapping among the
> scrollbar thumb position and the dataset cursor position.
Hmm. The is an old ui convention for [some of] that, whereby using the
scrollbar arrows allows pushing "past the end", shrinking the thumb.
Back in the amiga days at least, this was some sort of a FAQ along the
lines of
"Q. Why do scrollbars have those redundant arrow things at all, anyway?
A. Because they're not redundant, in some situations the arrows grow the
size of the content area, the bar only scrolls within the current extent
of the content area"
- you see that in the "workbench" file browser windows on the amiga, for
example. The fact people had to have that explained to them on
occasion suggests it wasn't all that obvious though.
I don't know if gtk actually allows that, and I don't think it really
helps in the emacs case, just saying that convention existed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-07 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-07 11:50 Scrollbar thumbs grischka
2009-11-07 16:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-07 17:47 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-03 16:36 grischka
2009-11-03 17:13 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-02 10:41 Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line) grischka
2009-11-02 11:21 ` Scrollbar thumbs Miles Bader
2009-11-03 0:48 ` grischka
2009-11-03 9:27 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-04 0:09 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-04 9:51 ` grischka
2009-11-04 11:18 ` joakim
2009-11-04 19:29 ` Jan Djärv
2009-11-04 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-05 1:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-09 23:14 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-05 9:23 ` Jan D.
2009-11-05 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-05 15:16 ` grischka
2009-11-05 15:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-05 15:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-05 16:07 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-05 23:55 ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-06 0:31 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-06 3:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-06 4:37 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-06 8:42 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-06 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-02 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 0:32 ` grischka
2009-11-03 1:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 5:37 ` grischka
2009-11-03 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 21:10 ` grischka
2009-11-03 23:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-03 10:02 ` joakim
2009-11-05 9:21 ` Jan D.
2009-10-30 11:18 Customizing the mode line Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-30 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-31 6:09 ` Manoj Srivastava
2009-10-31 20:38 ` Scrollbar thumbs (was: Customizing the mode line) Stefan Monnier
2009-11-01 3:11 ` Scrollbar thumbs Miles Bader
2009-11-02 6:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-02 7:41 ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-02 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
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