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From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to recognize keyboard insertion?
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:37:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEC75C3.900@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83skczcwes.fsf@gnu.org>

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Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> To simplify, this means that a `(' should be mirrored when surrounded
> by strong R2L characters, but not when surrounded by Latin characters
> or European digits.
> 

It IS only mirrored when surrounded by rtl characters, that was
what I included the nonsense string for.  When not so surrounded,
it, Shift-9 generates ")" /and it is shown as ")"/.   Arabic keyboards 
still have ( printed on 9, so I guess they work majority-rtl (which 
would make sense).

> Alternatively, we will need to mirror characters even if their
> directionality is L

I don't see why. Other apps don't.

> For example, try typing "9*(4+5)" after switching to Arabic keyboard.
> What do you get?
>


9*)4+5(

surrounded:

ثثث9*)4+5(ثثث
- but that was when I typed the expression as if LtR (i.e. hitting 9 
first),  I suspect an arabic person might type

ثثث(5+4)*9ثثث

- i.e. hitting ")" first when transcribing "9*(4+5)".  Then it just 
works I think as above (I'm including a screenshot from icedove just in 
case)

> Quail cannot easily know the context: it can only mirror these
> characters always, which is not right, since the display will mirror
> them only if they are surrounded by strong R2L characters.
> 
> 

I expect that's in fact what arabic users expect, though an actual 
arabic person might want to speak up...




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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-31 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-31 15:57 How to recognize keyboard insertion? Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 16:58 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-10-31 17:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 17:37     ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2009-10-31 17:43       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-10-31 18:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 19:26         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-10-31 20:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 20:42             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-10-31 21:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-31 21:49                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-01  3:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-01  5:24                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-01 19:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-01 20:19                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-01  3:40           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-01  5:46             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-01  5:44         ` tomas
2009-11-01 18:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-01 20:09             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-02  5:03               ` tomas
2009-11-01  1:30     ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-01  4:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-01  5:25         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-01 13:59           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-01 19:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <837huac8gg.fsf@gnu.org>
2009-11-02 14:49       ` Ehud Karni
2009-11-02 19:02         ` Eli Zaretskii

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