[off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

[off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Hello fellow orgers,

I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the era
of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions of
emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I search
for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:

 * emacs23
 * emacs-snapshot-gtk

The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:

"GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 2009-10-15
on yellow, modified by Debian"

For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:

"GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of
2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian"

Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?

Thanks in advance,

Marcelo.

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Re: [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

[Ian Barton]

> I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the 
> era of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions 
> of emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I 
> search for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:
> 
>  * emacs23
>  * emacs-snapshot-gtk
> 
> The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:
> 
> "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 
> 2009-10-15 on yellow, modified by Debian"
> 
> For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:
> 
> "GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of 
> 2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian"
> 
> Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?
> 
I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my 
.emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from 
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa everything works as 
expected using the same .emacs.

Ian.

Re: [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Thanks for the reply.

 I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my
> .emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa>everything works as expected using the same .emacs.
>

What is the difference between the emacs23 and emacs-snapshot-gtk packages?


On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Ian Barton <lists@manor-farm.org> wrote:

>
>  I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the
>> era of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions of
>> emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I search
>> for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:
>>
>>  * emacs23
>>  * emacs-snapshot-gtk
>>
>> The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:
>>
>> "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 2009-10-15
>> on yellow, modified by Debian"
>>
>> For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:
>>
>> "GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of
>> 2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian"
>>
>> Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?
>>
>>  I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my
> .emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa>everything works as expected using the same .emacs.
>
> Ian.
>

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Re: [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

[Richard Riley]

Ian Barton <lists@manor-farm.org> writes:

>> I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the 
>> era of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions 
>> of emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I 
>> search for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:
>> 
>>  * emacs23
>>  * emacs-snapshot-gtk
>> 
>> The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:
>> 
>> "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 
>> 2009-10-15 on yellow, modified by Debian"
>> 
>> For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:
>> 
>> "GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of 
>> 2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian"
>> 
>> Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?
>> 
> I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my 
> .emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from 
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa everything works as 
> expected using the same .emacs.
>
> Ian.
>
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>

This fixes the missing menus for me:

#!/bin/bash
# edit
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
emacsclient --alternate-editor="" -c $@

Re: [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

[Ian Barton]

> 
> What is the difference between the emacs23 and emacs-snapshot-gtk packages?
>  
> 
The snapshot is derived from the latest emacs in cvs. The emacs23 is the 
  "stable" v23 release. The snapshot package will contain extra 
bugfixes, features and quite possibly some extra bugs:)

Ian.

Re: Re: [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

[Ian Barton]

Richard Riley wrote:
> Ian Barton <lists@manor-farm.org> writes:
> 
>>> I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the 
>>> era of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions 
>>> of emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I 
>>> search for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:
>>>
>>>  * emacs23
>>>  * emacs-snapshot-gtk
>>>
>>> The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:
>>>
>>> "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 
>>> 2009-10-15 on yellow, modified by Debian"
>>>
>>> For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:
>>>
>>> "GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of 
>>> 2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian"
>>>
>>> Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?
>>>
>> I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my 
>> .emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from 
>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa everything works as 
>> expected using the same .emacs.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
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>>
> 
> This fixes the missing menus for me:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> # edit
> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
> emacsclient --alternate-editor="" -c $@
> 

Thanks. There seem to be a couple of bug reports with
similar problems to mine for Karmic. I'll give your fix
a try.

So it looks as though it's a GTK not an Emacs bug.

Best wishes,

Ian.