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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274238 Archived-At: > On Sep 7, 2021, at 2:28 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> From: Howard Melman >> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 00:25:29 -0400 >>=20 >> I proposed this almost exactly a year ago... >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-09/msg00451.html >> I got no responses. >>=20 >> I still think it's a good idea and I hope people respond to you. >=20 > If by "respond" you mean you expect someone to write such a command > and submit it to Emacs, then the chances of that seem to be low, given > the time that passed with no one volunteering. >=20 > How about if you do this job yourself? >=20 > (We will still need to ask people to use this command and hope they > will be willing to tell us about their habits through this mechanism. > Personally, I'm not sure this will work, given how people feel about > telemetry features. But it won't hurt us to try.) By "respond" I meant no one sent an email in support of or opposed to = the idea. Howard