* C-Home, C-End doesn't work in gnome-terminal - any idea why?
@ 2009-10-22 9:59 "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)"
2009-10-26 9:47 ` "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)"
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From: "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)" @ 2009-10-22 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
I don't seem to be able to generate C-home,C-end keyboard sequences from
a gnome-terminal.
Anybody have any idea why? Or how to tweek either emacs or
gnome-terminal to make it behave right? I realize this may be a gnome
issue, but then please let me know that if you know that for sure. I
decided to start here.
To reproduce:
* Start "emacs -nw" in a gnome-terminal
* Type : C-h c C-home
Expected output:
<C-home> runs the command beginning-of-buffer
Actual output:
<home> runs the command move-beginning-of-line
(pretty much the same for C-end too)
If I omit the -nw parameter, so emacs opens in a separate X window or if
I run it from an xterm instead of gnome-terminal, it also works.
Using the short perl snippet below, xterm produces this output when I
hit C-home:
Decimal: 27 Hex: 1b
Decimal: 91 Hex: 5b
Decimal: 49 Hex: 31
Decimal: 59 Hex: 3b
Decimal: 53 Hex: 35
Decimal: 72 Hex: 48
While gnome terminal produces this output:
Decimal: 27 Hex: 1b
Decimal: 79 Hex: 4f
Decimal: 72 Hex: 48
Clearly this is different. Is that enough to point the finger at
gnome-terminal? Or is there a 'take-foobar-into-account' setting
somewhere in either emacs, terminals, xmodmap or other voodoo?
I've used stty to produce the same settings for both terminals - no dice
- they still behave differently.
But I sometimes have to use emacs over a slow terminal, and I like to
use gnome-terminals. Yes, I know I can use M-< and M->, but C-home is in
my fingers from the X version. I hope I can get C-home, C-end to work! :-)
Thanks for reading this far.
Sincerely,
Peter
Perl snippet to see keyboard "chars":
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use Term::ReadKey;
ReadMode('cbreak');
print "Press keys to see their ASCII values. Use Ctrl-C to quit.\n";
while (1) {
$char = ReadKey(0);
last unless defined $char;
printf(" Decimal: %d\tHex: %x\n", ord($char), ord($char));
}
ReadMode('normal');
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www.morch.com
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* C-Home, C-End doesn't work in gnome-terminal - any idea why?
@ 2009-10-23 7:31 Peter Valdemar Mørch
2009-10-23 15:21 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-10-24 6:00 ` tomas
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Valdemar Mørch @ 2009-10-23 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
I don't seem to be able to generate C-home,C-end keyboard sequences from
a gnome-terminal.
Anybody have any idea why? Or how to tweek either emacs or
gnome-terminal to make it behave right? I realize this may be a gnome
issue, but then please let me know that if you know that for sure. I
decided to start here.
To reproduce:
* Start "emacs -nw" in a gnome-terminal
* Type : C-h c C-home
Expected output:
<C-home> runs the command beginning-of-buffer
Actual output:
<home> runs the command move-beginning-of-line
(pretty much the same for C-end too)
If I omit the -nw parameter, so emacs opens in a separate X window or if
I run it from an xterm instead of gnome-terminal, it also works.
Using the short perl snippet below, xterm produces this output when I
hit C-home:
Decimal: 27 Hex: 1b
Decimal: 91 Hex: 5b
Decimal: 49 Hex: 31
Decimal: 59 Hex: 3b
Decimal: 53 Hex: 35
Decimal: 72 Hex: 48
While gnome terminal produces this output:
Decimal: 27 Hex: 1b
Decimal: 79 Hex: 4f
Decimal: 72 Hex: 48
Clearly this is different. Is that enough to point the finger at
gnome-terminal? Or is there a 'take-foobar-into-account' setting
somewhere in either emacs, terminals, xmodmap or other voodoo?
I've used stty to produce the same settings for both terminals - no dice
- they still behave differently.
But I sometimes have to use emacs over a slow terminal, and I like to
use gnome-terminals. Yes, I know I can use M-< and M->, but C-home is in
my fingers from the X version. I hope I can get C-home, C-end to work! :-)
Thanks for reading this far.
Sincerely,
Peter
Perl snippet to see keyboard "chars":
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use Term::ReadKey;
ReadMode('cbreak');
print "Press keys to see their ASCII values. Use Ctrl-C to quit.\n";
while (1) {
$char = ReadKey(0);
last unless defined $char;
printf(" Decimal: %d\tHex: %x\n", ord($char), ord($char));
}
ReadMode('normal');
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www.morch.com
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* Re: C-Home, C-End doesn't work in gnome-terminal - any idea why?
2009-10-23 7:31 Peter Valdemar Mørch
@ 2009-10-23 15:21 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-10-23 19:39 ` "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)"
2009-10-24 6:00 ` tomas
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-10-23 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Valdemar Mørch; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 23.10.2009 um 09:31 schrieb Peter Valdemar Mørch:
> I don't seem to be able to generate C-home,C-end keyboard sequences
> from
> a gnome-terminal.
What is the value of the environment variable TERM? Are you able to
correct it?
--
Greetings
Pete
"No man was ever taken to hell by a woman unless he already had a
ticket in his pocket, or at least had been fooling around with
timetables."
– Archie Goodwin
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* Re: C-Home, C-End doesn't work in gnome-terminal - any idea why?
2009-10-23 15:21 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-10-23 19:39 ` "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)"
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From: "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)" @ 2009-10-23 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa Peter_Dyballa-at-Web.DE |Lists| wrote:
> What is the value of the environment variable TERM? Are you able to
> correct it?
Thanks Peter, for your reply.
I hadn't thought of TERM. But TERM=xterm in both xterm and
gnome-terminal. I tried unsetting TERM, but that gave this error:
Please set the environment variable TERM; see `tset'.
So I don't know what else to try there.
Peter
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www.morch.com
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* Re: C-Home, C-End doesn't work in gnome-terminal - any idea why?
2009-10-23 7:31 Peter Valdemar Mørch
2009-10-23 15:21 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-10-24 6:00 ` tomas
2009-10-24 10:33 ` "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)"
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: tomas @ 2009-10-24 6:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Valdemar Mørch; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:31:44AM +0200, Peter Valdemar Mørch wrote:
> I don't seem to be able to generate C-home,C-end keyboard sequences from
> a gnome-terminal.
I'd guess it's gnome-terminal eating the keystrokes. Try the following
experiment (on a shell on a Gnome terminal, that is :)
hexdump -C
Then type away at it. You should see a hexdump of your input. Then type
CTRL-Home. Does hexdump "see" it?
Now go to the terminal's menu "Edit->Keyboard Shortcuts". On mine theere
is a "Disable all menu access keys". This one fixed it for me.
HTH
- -- tomás
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* Re: C-Home, C-End doesn't work in gnome-terminal - any idea why?
2009-10-24 6:00 ` tomas
@ 2009-10-24 10:33 ` "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)"
2009-10-26 13:36 ` tomas
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From: "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)" @ 2009-10-24 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tomas; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
tomas-at-tuxteam.de |Lists| wrote:
> I'd guess it's gnome-terminal eating the keystrokes. Try the following
> experiment (on a shell on a Gnome terminal, that is :)
>
> hexdump -C
>
> Then type away at it. You should see a hexdump of your input. Then type
> CTRL-Home. Does hexdump "see" it?
hexdump -C produces output showing the same hex values that my perl
snippet did in the OP:
gnome-terminal:
^[OH00000000 1b 4f 48 |.OH|
00000003
xterm:
^[[1;5H00000000 1b 5b 31 3b 35 48 |.[1;5H|
00000006
It doesn't seem that gnome-terminal "eats" the keystrokes, it just
produces other keystrokes than xterm does.
> Now go to the terminal's menu "Edit->Keyboard Shortcuts". On mine theere
> is a "Disable all menu access keys". This one fixed it for me.
On mine (current ubuntu jaunty - gnome-terminal v. 2.26.0) there are two
settings under Edit / Keyboard Shortcuts: "Enable menu access keys" and
"Enable the menu shortcut key". Whether or not they are enabled makes no
difference.
Thanks for taking the time to post, Thomas.
Peter
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www.morch.com
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* Re: C-Home, C-End doesn't work in gnome-terminal - any idea why?
2009-10-24 10:33 ` "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)"
@ 2009-10-26 13:36 ` tomas
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From: tomas @ 2009-10-26 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists); +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
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On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:33:19PM +0200, "Peter Valdemar Mørch (Lists)" wrote:
> tomas-at-tuxteam.de |Lists| wrote:
>> I'd guess it's gnome-terminal eating the keystrokes. Try the following
>> experiment (on a shell on a Gnome terminal, that is :)
[...]
> Thanks for taking the time to post, Thomas.
Uh -- sorry. I should have read your original post more carefully -- I
could have deduced from there that the keystrokes weren't being eaten.
Now I can reproduce the problem -- in /usr/share/terminfo I count 10
entries for gnome-xxx terminals. Most of them show the behaviour you
describe, three of them (gnome+pcfkeys, gnome-rh72, gnome-rh80) are even
weirder (mapping C-Home to M-o h).
Seems the terminfo entries for gnome-terminal aren't up to snuff :-/
(Those kids nowadays don't use terminals that much, rant, rant :)
Regards
- -- tomás
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