From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeff Clough Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:28:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4AA7C98E.4070906@chaosphere.com> References: <4AA6E9D5.9050800@chaosphere.com> <4AA7B21C.4000008@chaosphere.com> <87hbvcuqxi.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252511806 5117 80.91.229.12 (9 Sep 2009 15:56:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:56:46 +0000 (UTC) To: GNU Emacs List Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 17:56:38 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MlPXA-0004iv-NH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:56:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36137 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlPXA-0007dx-6D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:56:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlP6q-00021z-7r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MlP6l-0001vQ-1r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:29:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45892 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MlP6k-0001vB-Qd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:29:18 -0400 Original-Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.125]:41107) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MlP6k-0004tI-B6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:29:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [66.65.230.106]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090909152917503.GBHN24259@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:29:17 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <87hbvcuqxi.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090908-0, 09/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:67997 Archived-At: Bastien wrote: > > > ;; Don't use nntp at all > (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil)) > > ;; Use nnml to read email > (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))) > > ;; Fetch emails from the mail pool > (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/mail/guerry")) > This seems very promising! I'll hit it later this afternoon and see how things turn out. > >> I've also taken a glance at VM and would like to go further, but I see >> no direct evidence that it works with Emacs 22.x. Is anyone using VM >> with a recent Emacs on Windows XP? >> > > Make sure you also have a look at Mew: http://www.mew.org > I've got a tab open to this now. Thanks again! > >> Before anyone seriously suggests moving to linux as a solution to my >> problem (which seems dangerously near), let me just clarify something. >> I'm well aware of my options in that regard and am very familiar with >> all things *nixen. Switching from Windows XP to *nix for email is not >> going to happen. Not at all. And I'm not interested in explaining why >> I won't or listening to why I should. >> > > (That sounds a bit angry, no?) > This happens a lot. Like, every time I have any issue whatsoever with a piece of open source software. You'd think the problem wouldn't be present during those many years I ran linux for my primary desktop machine, but then it just becomes "You're using the wrong distro." > >> I prefer my mail to always be in bsd mbox files because that's still >> what 90% of the world expects your mail to be in, can be manipulated by >> any code that operates on text files and doesn't break when I move from >> OS to OS. And speed shouldn't be a factor when your mua does proper >> indexing. >> > > You sound a bit fussy about all those things. > Only in-so-far as I have requirements. Other people have requirements to. Some people require that every piece of software they run be GPL'd. In specific regard to mbox files, I've prioritized interoperability and the ability to treat my mail as text. It's useful when I want to hack out some code that, say, gets all the YouTube URLs from the mail folder "Videos", passes them to another script that will download the files and I don't want to have to change that code when the mua changes. > While your arguments might be very right to you, you'll certainly get > more helpful answers with a more open-minded attitude. > > I'm very open-minded, especially when it comes to potential solutions to a problem I'm faced with. But I've also been fairly clear that I'm working with Windows and mbox files. Solutions that suggest I no longer do this aren't really solutions at all. It's like having my car run out of gas on the highway, then having someone come along and tell me to get a hybrid. I think I'll get more helpful answers when I'm clear about what I need. Thanks again for the info above! Jeff -- Author of the Genesys System A "free" universal role-playing game. http://www.chaosphere.com/genesys/