From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: moving window handling into lisp Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4A8D46DA.4090500@gmx.at> References: <4A89AA46.6050502@gmx.de> <4A8BC2CD.5060303@gmx.de> <4A8BF3E0.5090304@gmx.at> <4A8D375D.9090905@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250772775 6406 80.91.229.12 (20 Aug 2009 12:52:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: grischka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 20 14:52:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Me78I-0006CU-8S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:52:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36904 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Me78G-0001rV-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:52:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Me78A-0001rQ-NH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:52:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Me785-0001rB-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:52:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35433 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Me785-0001r8-E6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:59524) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Me77J-00009a-PN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:51:46 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Aug 2009 12:51:42 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-55-134.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.55.134]) [62.47.55.134] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 20 Aug 2009 14:51:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19YrzN31UpYt+80kFeWFCNQ6+XO6EedeVbLq2q1ZW DrKs3LXFjR7GMF User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <4A8D375D.9090905@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114438 Archived-At: >> In principle, Emacs windows should not be less than `window-min-height' >> lines tall. But an application can temporarily bind that variable to a >> smaller value during resizing and leave around a window of less height. >> Such windows usually don't harm when maximizing the frame but won't get >> us back the previous state when switching back to normal. > > You can't blame packages that they go through any hack to defend > their layout against the unpredictable interventions from the > distributed fuzzy-machine, err... emacs window-management. We must defend such packages against any attempts to simplify Emacs window-management at their cost. > Me thinks there are much more thoughts spend on 'window-min-height' > now than there possibly were at the time when it was first introduced. Not really. Any window-manager has to deal with the possibility that a window gets to small when its parent-window shrinks. All we can do is make such cases occur rarely, in practice. martin