From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4136: 23.1; delete-pair Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:11:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4A8689D1.3000408@gmx.at> References: <19075.45378.67131.491453@winooski.ccs.neu.edu> <87eirfs56q.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4A83E299.3060002@gmx.at> <87tz0bqqhm.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <19076.47996.128071.281272@winooski.ccs.neu.edu> <87pray9ezq.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: martin rudalics , 4136@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250332032 16591 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2009 10:27:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Barzilay , 4136@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 15 12:27:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1McGTY-00036T-89 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:27:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45467 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1McGTX-00019s-IX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1McGTS-00018L-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1McGTN-00017V-Cl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:26:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33631 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1McGTN-00017L-2P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:57701) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1McGTM-0002S5-Gr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:26:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7FAQnYM029868; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:26:50 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7FAK8YW028780; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:20:08 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: martin rudalics Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:20:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4136 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4136-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4136.125033110027555 (code B ref 4136); Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:20:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4136) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Aug 2009 10:11:40 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with SMTP id n7FABbNv027550 for <4136@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:11:39 -0700 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Aug 2009 10:11:31 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-35-223.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.35.223]) [62.47.35.223] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 15 Aug 2009 12:11:31 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19h5ZVXDo5h8RlP86ICcUsGlaHoot0op3I7CdedYA gd0tniYN3bke1U User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <87pray9ezq.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.74 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:26:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:30194 Archived-At: > This command is useful even if it doesn't fail on (...] because > forward-sexp and backward-sexp don't fail on (...]. Is this carved in stone? The TODO file has ** (Controlled by a flag) make open and close syntax match exactly, i.e. `(' doesn't match `]'. I always wondered what that entry aimed at ... > It seems you and Martin prefer checking against the `insert-pair-alist' > because the function name `delete-pair' suggests it should be > a counterpart of `insert-pair'. In this case I think we sould have > two commands: one more strict version `delete-pair' that checks > `insert-pair-alist', and another loose version with the name e.g. > `delete-parens' with the body of the current `delete-pair'. In any case, removing the first and last character from a name doesn't strike me as very "pair-like" ;-) martin