From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: point-min and 1 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:50:31 +0200 Message-ID: <4A853367.5060903@gmx.at> References: <83vdkvjbet.fsf@gnu.org> <4A813774.1030309@gmx.at> <83tz0ejjm8.fsf@gnu.org> <4A82839E.2010409@gmx.at> <83ljlpj5im.fsf@gnu.org> <4A83E27B.1030802@gmx.at> <4A84568F.7040706@gmx.at> <4A850F0B.5060006@gmx.at> <87ljlmkcmt.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250243470 26540 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2009 09:51:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 14 11:51:03 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MbtR4-0005MQ-6H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:50:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55656 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MbtR3-00083w-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:50:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbtQn-0007xd-Ie for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:50:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbtQh-0007uh-Vy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:50:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42612 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MbtQh-0007uV-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:50:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:53677) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MbtQg-0007J7-JN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:50:35 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Aug 2009 09:50:32 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-41-235.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.41.235]) [62.47.41.235] by mail.gmx.net (mp071) with SMTP; 14 Aug 2009 11:50:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+56gQtZ+C5Qg3dfcKr9VQdUsz7ZHzE4hqgyQ72kS Bvk5oVrxzwozqN User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <87ljlmkcmt.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.78 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114232 Archived-At: > I don't see how this "discussion" would be implified, It wouldn't have taken place in the first place. > typing is > simplified only marginally, Indeed. `goto-bob' and `goto-eob' would simplify completion. > and understanding is usually affected > negatively when simple, logical language idioms are replaced by > functions with a separate name. Not in this case: Instances of (goto-char 1) like those in reftex-* or `edit-tab-stops-note-changes' could have been avoided so understanding these would have been affected positively. > If performance were an issue, it would perfectly well be addressed by > the byte compiler. Not in people's .emacs. martin