From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: point-min and 1 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:52:59 +0200 Message-ID: <4A83E27B.1030802@gmx.at> References: <83vdkvjbet.fsf@gnu.org> <4A813774.1030309@gmx.at> <83tz0ejjm8.fsf@gnu.org> <4A82839E.2010409@gmx.at> <83ljlpj5im.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250157224 23363 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2009 09:53:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 13 11:53:37 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MbX01-0004ew-04 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:53:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39469 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MbWzy-0003mn-8S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:53:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbWze-0003eA-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:53:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbWzZ-0003aW-4L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56587 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MbWzY-0003aK-RF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:42177) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MbWzY-0000xM-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Aug 2009 09:53:00 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-61-170.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.61.170]) [62.47.61.170] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 13 Aug 2009 11:53:00 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18iqxIRi1kixyQILHJeI5IhQ3zmSbBSXm0mScFSPs BB0/L6DLN+Y4Uy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <83ljlpj5im.fsf@gnu.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.73 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114167 Archived-At: > ELisp code is full of such exposure, and not only in buffer > positioning. Trying to change this is tantamount to fighting Quixotic > wars, IMO. But we could try to not encourage people to introduce such exposure in the future. > OTOH, replacing a constant with a function call might make a > difference. We have some 1000 occurrences of `(goto-char (point-min))' in current Emacs. If this really made a difference, we should replace them. martin